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| Quote ="Starbug"So they would be the ' Robina Coast Titans '
But the're not are they ?'"
They would actually just be the Robina Titans.
But your point still stands. It's like saying Headingley Rhinos, which has a population of 2 billion students. (Unfortunately, not me anymore )
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| Quote ="classycas2009"no you dont...its the population of cas v's population of harliquins'"
Harlequins isn't a place!
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| What a silly thread, there are so many things that have an impact on crowds it's impossible to say who gets the best ones.
I could argue that Wigan get the best crowds because we have no success anymmore yet still get high averages. Saints get the worst ones because they are the best team and get lower crowds than a few teams.
Some teams get more away support because they are close to other clubs. Yorkshire clubs get more away support than Wire, saints and Wigan.
Celtic are a new team and get less away support than many teams so they get the best crowds.
Seriously who cares? Crowds should not be a reason to argue but all teams should come together to try and get better crowds for the game. Rl would be unstopable in European sport if we could fill our stadiums every week.
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| Quote ="classycas2009"Castleford is in a town of its own, just in the brough of wakeield.
Castleford, hightown, glasshoughton,whitwood, three lane ends, airdale is CASTLEFORD
looks like my pub bet is looking good anyway
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It may not be in Wakefield itself, but it is in the district (which has city status). Why does it matter if it is a town or not?
Where does Harlequins represent, since they have no place name? Your friend that you have bet with could use this against you.
I think the terms in your bet are too vague to actually determine a fair winner, and therefore you will never find one. So your bet is not actually looking too good.
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| Cas win. Hands down. Deal with it. Their crowds are awesome for such a small town. Widnes not far off if they were in SL.
Saints are the most pap for a biggish town and loads of success.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Cas win. Hands down. Deal with it. Their crowds are awesome for such a small town. Widnes not far off if they were in SL.
Saints are the most pap for a biggish town and loads of success.'"
But how many of their fans are actually from Castleford? How many are from outside? I would hazard a guess at a lot more are from outside in comparison to clubs in bigger places.
It can all be explained by adapting the Central Placement Theory:
[i"Central Place Theory is a geographical theory that seeks to explain the size and spacing of human settlements. It rests on the notion that centralization is a natural principle of order and that human settlements follow it. Created by the German geographer Walter Christaller, the theory suggests that there are laws determining the number, size and distribution of towns. He was interested only in their functions as markets, thus excluding specialist towns such as mining settlements. He argued that population alone couldn t measure the significance of a town." [/i
It was adapted for sports markets (which I can't find at the moment, but used it during my dissertation 3 months ago). Basically population of an actual town means very little. Other factors that I remember seeing from the sports adaptation was access (how easy it is to get to the ground for the majority of the target market) and number of facilities in that given area (i.e. other teams). It also mentioned population within a given radius as opposed to the population of individual settlements being much more significant.
To emphasise the lack of importance, if they changed their name to "West Yorkshire Tigers", then despite still being the same club in the same town, their attendances wouldn't seem as "awesome" due to their new perception as being a county team and not a small town team, despite being the exact same club probably pulling in fans from the same catchment area.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"It may not be in Wakefield itself, but it is in the district (which has city status). Why does it matter if it is a town or not?
Where does Harlequins represent, since they have no place name? Your friend that you have bet with could use this against you.
I think the terms in your bet are too vague to actually determine a fair winner, and therefore you will never find one. So your bet is not actually looking too good.'"
Think your missing the point wellsy
I was just a bet on Average attendance v's population of a town or city or whatever. not where the fans come from..lol
Where does Harlequins represent, since they have no place name? Your friend that you have bet with could use this against you.
Best get my friend onto his solicitor about this anyway which ever town or city they play in, ill have to take that population.
This wasnt a thread where how far fans travell to watch their game, every team as fans from outskirts and long distances.
It was just a fun bet which stands
Unless you can tell me a team in the U.K which as a better ratio or 3 teams worldwide, no need to get the law book out, its just a bit of fun, but I bet you too, that you cant find 1.
So in future referance when people say Castleford is not big anothe to be in SL, they do pritty dam well.
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| Quote ="Dico"We have a winner!'"
Yep thats a winner for the worldwide , can ya find another 2, then I pay up, or even just 1 in the U.K
Only fun guys
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| im sorry . but the bunnie's and dragons have the most fans
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| We need a face palm smiley.
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| Quote ="Drachen Feuer"We need a face palm smiley.'"
... Close?
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| I like this one
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| @ how seriously some people are taking the OP.
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| now we have a winner and the trumpets have sounded can we now do a thread on criminal acts on a population ratio ........oh hang on some one as already mentioned KR
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"394,269 according to this [url=http://www.statistics.gov.uk/StatBase/Expodata/Spreadsheets/D8271.xlslink[/url.
Of course not anyone who goes to watch will not be from Manchester, just as not everyone who goes to watch Cas will be from within the towns boundaries. Maybe a more accurate reflection would be to guesstimate the total population of the towns around Castleford (Pontefract, Normanton, Knottingley) and then compare that as percentage.'"
Typo corrected
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Easy when you are a one team town. When there are 3 or 4 pro sports teams in the city then it is even more impressive to get good crowds. In this respect surely Hull with its avg of 40+ thousand sports fans must be up there?'" Of course its Hull FC. We pull in an average of 11,000 every match. Couldn't believe it when I saw attendence for Leeds at home last week. Less than six thousand were at that match. At castleford last week there were less than 9,000 there and at least 2,000 Hull FC supporters made that attendance what it was.
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| Hull as a city love their sport, good on them.
Erm, im sure one of the boroughs of sydney will be high on this ratio.
Anyone have the numbers for maybe the Eagles? Manly is a realllly small place isnt it? in fact im pretty certain their crowds will be higher than cas' ratio, same with Cronulla
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| Very hard to define in Sydney as they don't just draw from their suburb but surronding areas too. Manky for example don't have any competition on the whoole North shore area.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Very hard to define in Sydney as they don't just draw from their suburb but surronding areas too. Manky for example don't have any competition on the whoole North shore area.'"
ahh but neither do castleford.
To say all of castlefords fans come from that specific area would be absolute codswallop.
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| Quote ="Dico"ahh but neither do castleford.
To say all of castlefords fans come from that specific area would be absolute codswallop.'"
Fair point. I travel from Hackney. Disco travel from Broadstairs. And I'm aware of one other season ticket holder who lives on the South Coast.
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| Thats what makes these debates such a waste of time.
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Quote ="classycas2009"This is based on a Average attendance V's population.
Ive had 3 bets with a friend.
1st We are the best Supported V's Population in the U.K
2nd We in in the top 3 Worldwide best Supported V's Population
3rd Top ten best supported V's population in both Rugby codes Worldwide
:Attendances must be a Average and not a 1 off
:population must be the town/city were the team plays
The bets came across with a agument over our attendances, then I stated that Cas are probabally the best supported team in the world V's population, he laughed that off then we made these 3 bets.
If not yet shown my friend this yet, but heres a link for Attentance V population figures in 2006 even thou are population asnt grown since then are attendances are up from then.
jotbin.com/articles/2007/01/14/p ... ttendances
I would be gratfull if any1 can find/post 1's that beat that, world wide and both codes.
Thanks'"
Can't be bothered to read through all the posts, so apologies if someone's mentioned this BUT
you must take into account away support and deduct this from your figures. I'm sorry but your crowds would look much less impressive if you did this.
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Quote ="classycas2009"This is based on a Average attendance V's population.
Ive had 3 bets with a friend.
1st We are the best Supported V's Population in the U.K
2nd We in in the top 3 Worldwide best Supported V's Population
3rd Top ten best supported V's population in both Rugby codes Worldwide
:Attendances must be a Average and not a 1 off
:population must be the town/city were the team plays
The bets came across with a agument over our attendances, then I stated that Cas are probabally the best supported team in the world V's population, he laughed that off then we made these 3 bets.
If not yet shown my friend this yet, but heres a link for Attentance V population figures in 2006 even thou are population asnt grown since then are attendances are up from then.
jotbin.com/articles/2007/01/14/p ... ttendances
I would be gratfull if any1 can find/post 1's that beat that, world wide and both codes.
Thanks'"
Can't be bothered to read through all the posts, so apologies if someone's mentioned this BUT
you must take into account away support and deduct this from your figures. I'm sorry but your crowds would look much less impressive if you did this.
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| Quote ="therobins"Can't be bothered to read through all the posts, so apologies if someone's mentioned this BUT
you must take into account away support and deduct this from your figures. I'm sorry but your crowds would look much less impressive if you did this.'"
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| Quote ="Oldham Rhino"I thought everyone knew this was Hull KR. They take 2 million to every away game ya knows
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| Quote ="Gazemous"'"
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