Correction - they came good for PART of the 2nd half of the season.

Can you nd us how they got on in the Super 8's ?
Played 7, won 2, lost 5, some distance from being good enough to challenge for honours.


Having said that, I'd be happy for Trinity to do the same if they had The Challenge Cup in ther trophy cabinet.

Full Back – [iTony Gigot [/i - Lets be honest, there's another ban on the way...

Wing – [iJodie Broughton[/i - Solid Winger, not going to win trophies on his own.
Centre – [iBrayden Wiliame[/i - Overrated.
Centre – [iDavid Mead[/i - I like Mead but not what he was made out to be.
Wing – [iLewis Tierney[/i - Nothing special.

Stand off – [iSam Tomkins[/i - Joined for a payday, quality player but
Scrum Half –[i Matty Smith [/i - Past it, will spend 50% of the season injured also.

Prop – [iSam Moa[/i - Solid SL prop.
Hooker – [iMickey McIlorum[/i - A very underrated hooker IMO.
Prop – [iRemi Casty[/i - Did nothing all last season apart from shout Yes Papa.
Second Row – [iBenjamin Jullien[/i - Nothing special.
Second Row – [iBen Garcia[/i - Solid player.
Loose – [iGreg Bird[/i - Grub but a decent player.

Interchange: [iJulien Bousquet, Antoni Maria, Kenny Edwards, Jason Baitieri[/i - Probably the worst bench in the league IMO, no talent.

Reserves: [iSamisoni Langi, Alrix da Costa[/i - Alrix Da Costa will soon find himself playing for a lower league French side.

Its an odd one to predict, Saints set a standard last season and you can only imagine most teams will be working towards that bar in pre season. Will they cope with the loss of Barba and can Richardson produce again ? Wigan look weaker on paper but a new coach coming in can often work for the better. Lower teams naturally look better after bad seasons so you would expect them to be much tougher opposition. Im not so sure Brough is a good signing for Wakefield I feel he wont work well with Miller but time will tell. Catalans made a good signing with Tomkins but then a bad one with Matty Smith IMO and I dont see them being drastic improvers. I expect Hull to have a better season but off the pace for top 4 but have a chance of the 5th playoff spot. London I think will comfortably be relegated as I dont expect them to topple many teams on the road but will be difficult at home. Hull KR have made some good signings but a lack of a quality half will hamper there chances of moving further up the table. Salford have a good 17 but they just dont ever seem consistent enough home or away.

For me id predict this.

Saints
Wire
Cas
Wigan
Hull
Leeds
Huddersfield
Wakefield
Catalans
Hull KR
Salford
London

Other then Saints at top and London at the bottom I wouldnt be surprised to see this all be very different.

Hull above Wakefield, Leeds and Hudds - you better get recruiting then.

Super League is getting more competitive and it's getting harder to place teams. My only thought is that for me Saints will still lead the pack and London will finish bottom. Everyone else is in between.

The top 4 is less certain - Huddersfield, Wakefield, Leeds and Hull could be there or thereabouts and I don't know if Cas, Wire and Wigan will sustain their places. The only defining factor is depth and whoever gets injuries could see them dragged out the play-off race. I think there's lots of recruitment still to be done and changes here and there so it's hard to tell with still 2 and half months to go to the season.

Predictions probably to change but for me St Helens, Wire, Hull, Wigan, Cas, Wakefield, Leeds, Huddersfield, Catalans, Salford, Hull KR, London

I realise that being an Ocker means English isn't your first language, but how hard is it to find the bit where I commented on their most recent form...... here....I'll help you out





Is than not enough "recent form" for you? OK, let's discuss the last 7 rounds of the regular season and the 7 rounds of 8's! They total 13 points from a possible 28.....a 46% win ratio, still not good enough to reach the Play-offs.......HOW MORE RECENT DO YOU NEED?

....see buddy, your opinion is just that, whilst the statistics will always show your opinion to be flawed.

To finish top of the pile we would have to.

Keep a fully fit 17 and we can finish above the teams you mention, although its not a given. Wouldnt say either of the teams you mention have a better squad then Hull, on par yes but not better. Be interesting to see how it pans out.

Leeds’ squad still contains a lot of players that have got the job done and won a GF (and as we constantly see year upon year come GF time that experience IS IMPORTANT) added to it a few better than usual NRL recruits then we’re stronger than most think providing injuries don’t hit and Sinfield doesn’t cone out every week slagging off the players for their culture and attitude and then expect them to perform for him.

As a London fan, I would agree with almost all the prediction on here, it is quite difficult to see how we can be 11th at the end of the season, and if we do get that 11th place it would absolutely be on par to winning the whole competition in our eyes.

But also as a London supporter, as much as I would like to get into whose going to win the SL debate, I think a much more unpredictable and harder competition to call this year is in the Championship.
Don't get me wrong, I love bring back in the super league, but a little tiny piece of me would love to be fighting in that 2019 championship promotion spot, and I am going to suspect that is where we will be in 2020.

Its a smaller tin than Chesters, thats for sure.
"The bubble will burst" and "punching above their weight" quotes have been banded about for 4-5 years at cas.
So.....2019 season?
Dont know how long Wakey can keep punching above their weight,the bubble will burst soon,Chester can only polish turds for so long.

Yes, like I said.....



Can't help think that the Cas ship has sailed and if they couldn't pick up some silverware in the last 2 seasons despite playing so well for so much of the season(s) then I dont know when they will.

Castleford not recruiting will surely come back to bite them later in the season, there's always room for improvement and a couple injuries are really going to hurt them as I'd say depth in the squad is questionable.

FB - Mata'utia
W - Minikin - Clare
C - Wardle - Gill
C - Shenton
W - Eden - Egodo
SO - Roberts - Ellis - Aston
SH - Gale - Trueman
P - Watts - Sene-Lefao - Clark - Maher
H - McShane - O'Neill
P - Moors - Millington - Massey
S - Holmes - Cook
S - McMeeken - Foster
L - Milner

The difference in talent between some of the players is massive and if players are injured for any more than 1-2 games it will start to show on the scoreboard/league table.

Catalans starting 17 plus reserves are much stronger than Castleford.

Castleford's application is much better than catalans'

You seem to have missed out a few players. When you lump them in separate positions of course it looks like there's no strength in depth - I've edited to show this properly.

This gives us a starting team of

Mata'utia, Minikin, Foster, Shenton, Eden, Trueman, Gale, Watts, McShane, Millington, Holmes, McMeeken and Milner. Subs: Moors, Sene-Lefao, Roberts, Cook.

Backups of Wardle, Clare, Massey, Clark, Ellis, Turner, Maher, Gill, Egodo, Aston, O'Neill and Lewis Carr who has been promoted.

Squad of 29 players, 22 of which have SL experience and are regulars, while Maher, Turner, Gill and Egodo have all played at least one senior game. The only sure fire starter senior player we've lost is Webster and even then he wasn't first choice towards the end of last year, a season blighted by injury where we finished 3rd and that was without a full-back for three-quarters of it too.

Saints have announced squad numbers where 19 only have regular SL or NRL experience, a handful of kids (Lees, Ashworth) who have played a few games, and the rest very few, if any.

I count 29 players he's listed and you say you've got a squad of 29, who's missing mate?

Well if I were strengthening Wakefield by picking over those two squads I reckon Catalan would be pretty safe whilst Cas might have a few holes.

Who at Castleford is better than Antoine Gigot (Lancelot Todd trophy winner), David Mead, Samuel Tomkins, Remi Casty, Michael McIlorum, Julien Bousquet, and Gregory Bird?

Most of them - Gogot had two good games WOW, Mead show pony, Tomkins has been poor for years but staged a bit of a comeback this year so we shall see if he keeps it up, Casty just a hard worker loads of those at Cas ditto Bousquet. Bird past it and a grub but I might be interested, McIlorum yes I'd have him.

Lancelot Todd.

Your opinion and one designed to wind people up I'd guess.............meanwhile you ignore the factual responses given to you......that in their last 15 games of a 30 game 2018 season Catalan won 15 points from 30 (50%), slightly better than the 10 points they got from the first 15 fixtures (33.3%)......