61% capacity with 14,167 unsold seats isn't at all bad...........if you like accepting abject failure that is!

In Billy Eve Mode...

25,871 in 2011 =#FF0000- 13.6%
27,532 in 2010 =#FF0000-23.3%
23,613 in 2009 =#FF0000-5.4%



Personally, If London make the Final I believe it should be played at the Cake Tin in Wellington (for the sake of my wallet and my marriage)

Rugby League legends Des Drummond and Henderson Gill will conduct the draw for the semi-finals of the 2013 Tetley’s Challenge Cup on Sunday (July 14). The draw will take place live on BBC2 following the conclusion of the Warrington Wolves v Huddersfield Giants quarter-final, which kicks off at 4.15.

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Des Drummond, Henderson Gill? never heard of them.

Gillian Henderson? Why have Scully without Mulder?

Look at the post I was responding to... I didn't once say they are particularly great crowds.

Wonder if Ray French has figured out which one's which yet.

He probably thinks they're Green Vigo & Ellery Hanley!

If it's Hull vs London, Donny would probably be the best shout. We took 9,000 against Wakefield last time. Isn't that on a direct train line from London as well?

There's always Craven Park...

Maybe even Grimsby?

Hull v London/Huddersfield @ Halifax
Hull v Wigan/Widnes/Wire, @ Huddersfield

Halifax? Bit of a trek for both clubs isn't it? Donny would be a far better shout.

Hull vs Wigan/Widnes/Warrington - Huddersfield
Hull vs Huddersfield/London - Headingley/Keepmoat
Wigan/Widnes vs Warrington - Langtree Park
London vs Wigan/Widnes/Warrington - LSV
Huddersfield vs London - Headingley

Isn't the keepmoat an all seater, no one likes that if they have the choice.

Headingley is too big for a Hull vs London fixture IMO. 10k max would be the crowd. That's a half empty Headingley.

A half empty Headingley looks better than a half empty most grounds.

Assuming Wigan beat Widnes on Monday, common sense dictates that we should be playing in the Sunday Semi Final, as we've got St Helens on Monday 22nd.

Then again, the RFL and Common Sense go together like Polar Bears and the Sahara.

Does it need re-inforcing once more that the sport of Rugby League does not revolve entirely around the requirements of Wigan?

Aww, poor Wigan

They need the RFL to look after them

Not that I agree, but I think my point is more not to take it to a ground that would be more than half empty!

And with Headingley, it would be hard to disguise the lack of attendance as most fans would be situated in the South Stand (out of view of the camera).

Doncaster would be ideal for a Hull v London or Huddersfield semi.

If you play London you could realistically play it at the Huntington Stadium.

I reckon

Huddersfield and Leigh will be the venues

I suppose to be fair the London game would need to be in the midlands but that won't happen.

If its against Wigan then for the good of the attendance they should play it at Leigh. If it's Widnes then they should play it at Warrington.

The Wire vs Hull game should be at Huddersfield. I reckon that will see the first decent semi final crowd for a while.

how about wigan, if they win play London at Milton Keynes? wasn't Tomkins born there, or lived there?

as for the game days, wire v fc should be the sunday as London play leeds the following Thursday

If we get through we play Saints the Monday before so I guess we'll be pushing for the Sunday.

Somebody on our board said they'll definitely have the better tie on the Saturday as that's what BBC will want. If that's the case then Wire and Hull will be the Saturday game.

I'm hearing Hudds isn't available on facebook, don't know if that's true, just play it on this side, Saints will do.