This who has an academy is becoming quite dated.

I thought we’d seen the last of this nutcase.

Ok Leythers 'fess up....

How many of you referred to (to quote Harry) "the Good Doc" as Cashcow or Koolcash when he was at Salford?

Don't make me trawl back through the archives to embarrass you all now you can't wait for him to plough his *billions into your club

*Well near enough

I will "fess up", used to call him "Car - Crash" but would welcome his input if he was sharing the financial burden with Derek Beaumont & it gave Leigh real buying power & influence.

TBF to MK, in his interview he came across as very humble & sounded like he has learned from experience.

It's been dying for over 120 years, the planet is dying too. I'm not far off either.....Just enjoy what we have

I don't think the Salford Academy thing is relevant. SL clubs need to promote the game to youngsters and they all do this via their "Foundations" Inc. Salford......

As we can see with academy re-organisation the RFL want less academies with a higher level of skilled youngsters to up the standards on the pitch.

As we saw with Salford's academy days, local talent used to go from Salford to top clubs academies like Wigan and Leeds. Players like Evalds didn't but if there had been no Salford academy he'd have gone to Wigan.

Not a stick to beat Koucash with, notwithstanding all rich owners should be welcomed, and should be allowed to spend there money as they like when they like.

Sorry I am late with a reply,
Firstly, I had a look over on TRL forums and I was not dissapointed in the least with the kind if reactions I expected to read, 90% of them were of a negative nature, i.e. what about Cumbria, what about Liverpool, what about Bradford, what about Salford Academy, how rich is Dr. Koukash really, he and Deggsy will fall out, I honestly find it all very tedious.
These comments seem to be percolating up from those who seemingly who are wary of what it could do for Leigh to have the opportunity of two people with an ability to invest in the team/club to match any in the League, it is also very evident that there is a lot of jealousy attached to a lot of the comments.
I wish people would just come out and say "Leigh are not worthy of this, they are after all just a small town club" someone even said, he (The Doc) should go to Newcastle or York his money would be better spent there, Geez.
As for me, I have been involved with the Leigh club for well over half a century, I know our natural place in the order of merit it sits somewhere between 10th and 14th of all the clubs, so if with the good Docs arrival and he along with Mr Beaumont can shove us a bit higher up the pecking order for a few years then I am all for it, BUT we will have to wait and see if it actually happens or has many would wish it is all just hot air.
I honestly do not care who it upsets, or who if it transpires Leigh could possibly replace in the top echelon, just like all the SL Chairmen didn't care, even the rich ones like your own Mr Davy, or Leneghan, or McManus, or Pearson, or Caddick et al who thought that individually witholding a paltry £50K each and pocketing it themselve for their clubs from the central funding was a good idea, they knew the consequences it would have for Leigh, but hey it's only Leigh.
As I say I will be overjoyed if the Doc joins my club and I won't be upset with whoever's toes we step on, if he doesn't come then I will settle back in the manner I have become accustomed to over the years for a very long, and just dream what could have been.

Great post Harry.

You won't embarrass me Slim, I always thought Dr. KOUKASH was good for the game, like our own Mr BEAUMONT, a spade is a spade, it's not a shovel or a dust pan, a spade and they say it how they see it, I thought he had a raw deal at Salford, but as he admits to he was nieve and on reflection thought he knew more than he did, I honestly thought his biggest ever mistake was his first decision in employing Brian Noblel apart who apart from his inherited team and tactics coach Elliott at Bradford his record every where else is dismal, and no more do than at Salford, if he had employed someone with more nounce than "I can talk talk a good game Noble" things may have turned out very differently for your club.

I actually have a lot of time for Salford and I have been many times when they didn't clash with Leigh and especially moreso when Mr Beaumont and The Doc had the reciprocal agreement of allowing season ticket holders from the other club in for £10, I was definitely on Salford's side who ever they played cheering and moaning as the aspects of the game unfolded, so if there is one exception to your "embarass you all" I am him.

How has the new stadium affected Salford attendances ? Up or down ? I personally ,as Wire fan, think it is easier to get to but a nightmare to get off ,but it does look better than the Willows. My last memory of there was when a Salford fan set fire to the scoreboard....nobody seemed bothered & the game carried on. I wonder if they even phoned the fire brigade ?

"A new stadium bounce at the AJ Bell in 2012 saw an average gate over 5,500 but that did not last long, with a decline which saw their average drop below 3,000 as many fans quickly fell out of love with their new home." https://www.totalrl.com/up-or-down-an-i ... st-decade/

"A new stadium bounce at the AJ Bell in 2012 saw an average gate over 5,500 but that did not last long, with a decline which saw their average drop below 3,000 as many fans quickly fell out of love with their new home." https://www.totalrl.com/up-or-down-an-i ... st-decade/

What has this remotely got to do with Koukash potentially getting involved at Leigh?

I'm sure you're well aware attendances have gone down btw.

Terrible post this Harry







Never mind what reactions some people are coming up with on Forums, these forums are full of people who dream of the game going massive in North America, the game setting up a European League, the game setting up successful clubs in Rugby Union land, the game going Anglo-French, Transatlantic or even a world league where SL and the NRL meet. All this is real to them and funded of course by bags of scotch mist.....

Many of their dreams were dug up again when they heard of venture capitol, that being completely free money that rich individuals will give RL clubs in spades to spend with no need to pay anything back at all. To them the problem is "Northern clubs" in towns who nobody of course has ever heard of. They are getting close to their dream of the Anglo-French league in which more French clubs join SL. They imagine there's pots of gold at the end of chasing these rainbows because this is "The greatest game" and the rest of the world just needs to get a glimpse of it we will conquer the world.

In the real world the majority of fans simply want to see the game prosper. They see how Soccer and Union "prosper" via rich owners, and they welcome such rich owners as I do especially those who are pantomime villains like Degsy.........

Man up Harry my boy and enjoy thr ride

Well seeing as i wasn't the first to mention Salford on this topic ,my thoughts are would the Doctor have had more success at Salford if the club had still been at the Willows among its long term fan base & would success have attracted more fans to make the club more viable than being out at Barton where ,apart from its first season, attendances have dropped as you assert. Perhaps Marwan would benefit Leigh if he is coming into a club that has not moved from its fanbase.
Incidentally ,have Sale Sharks benefitted from the new stadium ?

Looks like they average about 6,200 a season....that's about 25% down on where they were before they moved in. They made an offer in April, probably based on the success they've seen wasps have in coventry where they're 10,000 better off per game + other revenue streams.
Marwan with his gazzilllions could do worse than buy the stadium for Leigh....

Last estimate of his wealth I have seen was £50 Million in 2018 via hotel ownership......

I’m not sure Dr K would want to swap his millions and properties / assets for a stadium in Leigh. No offence at all to Leigh but he’s likely to make more money from his current assets than a stadium

Wasps lose millions every year and have been forced to refinance their debts a couple of times already because they were unable to make the repayments. They're not a success story at all.

No one knows how much cash the doctor has.

Probably no where near the “estimates” and certainly a patch on the millions and millions our owner has.

This is 3 years ago,so make of it what you will. Scroll half way down [url=https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5513516/marwan-koukash-net-worth-multi-millionaire-businessman-racehorse-salford-city-reds/[uHERE[/u[/url

I believe they are in debt to the tune of 50 million, with 60% to the bank and 40% to the owner. I suspect if you wanted to build a stadium of that magnitude again, you'd be spending a similar amount, so they're not panicking just yet. As for not being a success at all.....they have 17k average gates where they used to have 6k......fiscally they're owned by a very wealthy man so the debt isn't yet a problem, but they're far better off than they were at wycombe....compare their story with say Bradford and tell me which is the bigger basket case?

& some want to run an Academy & have proven funds to run one at the highest level *Leigh* but are not allowed to !

Probably true, yet the stadium at LSV makes revenue from Manchester United Reserves, Manchester United Ladies, Leigh Centurions, Rugby League Internationals, Lionel Ritchie & Elton John concerts.

Meanwhile over at Odsal .......

Happy memories....



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Back in the days when a curry magnet and a failed publican were seen as the messiah.......lol

Lol

They don’t lose millions every year. They make millions every year until Covid hit.

They actually had a profit of £10 million the year before Covid which is more than the entire profit of super league clubs since 1996.

Ergo, stop lying