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We're back to, if you can play, we will forget any misdemeanors 
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"Just look at the characters who come into the sport. We've had wife beaters ffs. Their was no pitchforks out demanding they not be allowed to play.
If people don't want Izzy in the game so be it but don't upset about that yet criminal convictions are ok.
Robert Lui was released from the Tigers for beating up his wife and then made SL his home? You cool with that?'"
Lui didn't say everyone should beat their wife, or that all women deserve a beating (which is, in effect, what Folau said about homosexuals)
I have asked this question before, how is hitting a woman any worse than hitting a man?, violence is violence.
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Only a crass RLfans poster would link to an article about a man who has just died, along with 8 others (including his daughter)
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All the expansionists defending this signing, what a surprise.
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How long before a French RU club sign him on big money?
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| Quote ="IR80"Lui didn't say everyone should beat their wife, or that all women deser ed a beating (which is, in effect, what Folau said about homosexuals)
I have asked this question before, how is hitting a woman any worse than hitting a man?, violence is violence.
using a phrase like "you cool with that" is letting that mask slip.'"
It's not but I don't buy someone inflicting violence on an innocent party is somehow more tolerable than words someone used. |
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| Quote ="Willzay"All the expansionists defending this signing, what a surprise.'"
Come on, that has nothing to do with this discussion and by bringing expansion into the argument, you are deliberately or otherwise, deflecting the heat from the issue.
Catalan have signed numerous "bad boys" but, to argue in favour or against expansion based on this is just ridiculous. |
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| Quote ="Superted"Same old same old, everybody is up in arms because we need to be ‘inclusive’, but only to those who hold the same views as them.
I don’t agree with his comments, I have my own personal views on him as an individual (and anyone else who can follow religion to the extremes), but you can’t exclude someone due to their religious beliefs - that’s not ‘inclusive’.
Putting it on social media is wrong, and there needs to be sanctions outlined for if he does that (which it appears there are), but what he’s done isn’t a hate crime, he wasn’t punished legally, and his victory over the ARU shows that if push comes to shove, excluding him from the sport would be illegal. Now most clubs you’d like to think would look at him and think ‘yeah, he’s potentially a great player (though probably not now at his age and having been in Union so long), but actually, our clubs culture and belief systems are so different to his, that his talents aren’t worth compromising our standards for’... Catalan clearly don’t have that self-worth, which can also be seen in their approach to professionalism elsewhere (see Kenny Edwards recent comments)
The best response is to do exactly what Wigan have done - show that whilst he may hold ridiculous and bigoted views, the rest of us are well and truly on the opposite side of the argument to him.
Live and let live folks - just shake your head at him, and the Catalan club.'"
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Come on, that has nothing to do with this discussion and by bringing expansion into the argument, you are deliberately or otherwise, deflecting the heat from the issue.
Catalan have signed numerous "bad boys" but, to argue in favour or against expansion based on this is just ridiculous.'"
It was an observation, those defending the signing of this homophobe also seem to be pro Toronto. |
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What odds would I get for Catalans to beat Wigan in the Grand final and Folou to score the winning try?
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| Quote ="puroresu_boy"It's not but I don't buy someone inflicting violence on an innocent party is somehow more tolerable than words someone used.'"
you are entitled to your opinion, the morality of it is something for you to wrestle with yourself. |
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"What odds would I get for Catalans to beat Wigan in the Grand final and Folou to score the winning try?'"
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| Quote ="giddyupoldfella"What odds would I get for Catalans to beat Wigan in the Grand final and Folou to score the winning try?'"
I think it's a safer bet that when he receives less than warm welcomes on his travels and the Dragons choke it again this season, that he'll be unable to help himself and say something again.
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| Quote ="IR80"He is guilty of a hate crime and, therefore, should not be allowed into tne country.'"
Are you for real, go on then where was the prosecution? What an idiotic comment. |
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I hope 10k extra people come to the KCOM when he plays against Hull just to boo him
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I hope 10k extra people come to the KCOM when he plays against Hull just to boo him'"
Not from Perpignan they wont.
On a serious note, this just seems a strange signing.
Although, no doubt, he will be on fraction of his old Union contract, why on earth would you throw decent money at the player.
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| Quote ="IR80"Being anti bigotry isn't fashionable.
Dave Woods
It's's fair to say that the whole game is appalled by Catalans' decision to sign Israel Folau but they are legally constrained by what they can do.
Rugby Australia sacked him but had to come to an expensive settlement following a court case.
The Australian National Rugby League declared that he would not be welcome in their game but as they didn't ban him that has left the RFL unable to prevent his registration here.
But it's fair to say he will not be welcome at any domestic Super League grounds.
Wigan's immediate reaction to declare that their home game against Catalans will now be a celebration of the LGBTQ+ community is a reflection of the sentiments of every other Super League club.
It's rare to see such a united front from both the Super League and RFL in their condemnation of this signing.'" \
I'm not especially upset so he/you are not talking for anybody except your own over-inflated ego's.
That would be the same Wigan club that has a renowned homophobe plying for them, I think somebody has made you up, you can't be for real. You mate are a total hypocrite but then that's the true definition of a snowflake or woke or whatever the latest name is for people with a moral superiority complex is. |
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Not from Perpignan they wont.
On a serious note, this just seems a strange signing.
Although, no doubt, he will be on fraction of his old Union contract, why on earth would you throw decent money at the player.
Surely, there are better and "safer" options out there for the same kind of cash ?'"
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Good post fisherman
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"\
I'm not especially upset so he/you are not talking for anybody except your own over-inflated ego's.
That would be the same Wigan club that has a renowned homophobe plying for them, I think somebody has made you up, you can't be for real. You mate are a total hypocrite but then that's the true definition of a snowflake or woke or whatever the latest name is for people with a moral superiority complex is.'"
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| Quote ="Angelus"The difference is the history that LGBT people have had to endure vs "adulterers, liars, atheists". you've never felt unsafe because you lied or got drunk, or felt like you couldn't be out in public drunk.'"
Actually there are still a number of countries where you would not want to be caught drunk. As for adultery...
He won't be able to help himself though and sooner or later he will feel the need to "evangelise". |
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"\
I'm not especially upset so he/you are not talking for anybody except your own over-inflated ego's.
That would be the same Wigan club that has a renowned homophobe plying for them, I think somebody has made you up, you can't be for real. You mate are a total hypocrite but then that's the true definition of a snowflake or woke or whatever the latest name is for people with a moral superiority complex is.'"
your opinion, which doesn't matter to me. |
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| Quote ="Fishermanscap"\
I'm not especially upset so he/you are not talking for anybody except your own over-inflated ego's.
That would be the same Wigan club that has a renowned homophobe plying for them, I think somebody has made you up, you can't be for real. You mate are a total hypocrite but then that's the true definition of a snowflake or woke or whatever the latest name is for people with a moral superiority complex is.'"
Pretty much every chairman has said so far that its not something they agree with, so hes right in saying the league dont want him.
Also, you want to watch what you say mate. For one its not true, as theres a difference between a homophobe and homophobic comment. |
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'I think same sex relationships are wrong' = religious view (although outdated and out of touch)
'Homosexuals should burn in hell, and those dieing in the Australia fires are paying for sins' = hate speech.
Get the difference?
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