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| Quote ="Nothus"Can't see 5 teams on 8, but I can easily see 3. Leigh, Huddersfield and Salford would be my prediction.
The key games will be Hull KR v Huddersfield, Leigh v Huddersfield and Hull KR v Leigh.
What's also interesting is that Leigh play Leeds in the last round of fixtures. Leeds will almost certainly have done enough to avoid the mpg by that stage, there's every chance that Leeds might rest a few or the players could have their minds on their impending vacations.'"
This is a valid point.
Given our form this year, I wouldn't back against Leigh giving us a game regardless of our team.
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| Not difficult to get 5 teams on 8. All games go to form(ish) except London beat Hull KR at home and HKR beat Leeds.
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| Quote ="JackDiggle"Not difficult to get 5 teams on 8. All games go to form(ish) except London beat Hull KR at home and HKR beat Leeds.'"
Sorry we have played leeds and lost so you are wrong their
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| Quote ="Nothus"Can't see 5 teams on 8, but I can easily see 3. Leigh, Huddersfield and Salford would be my prediction.
The key games will be Hull KR v Huddersfield, Leigh v Huddersfield and Hull KR v Leigh.
What's also interesting is that Leigh play Leeds in the last round of fixtures. Leeds will almost certainly have done enough to avoid the mpg by that stage, there's every chance that Leeds might rest a few or the players could have their minds on their impending vacations.'"
You mean like last year when Bradford and Wakey both 'lost' their final game in the qualifiers to Fax and Sheffield respectively. On the subject of points difference Leighs habit of going missing in the last 10 minutes of each of the three games so far has cost them around 40 points. Will that be the difference between automatic promotion (3rd) and the away team in the MPG (5th).
However at this moment in time there is still a small chance of a humongous party at Leeds for our last game in the qualifiers
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Not quite/about ...
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Whatever.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Oh sorry I'll change my statement because Bradford beat a SL side they should have been put straight in SL it's 7 games fella not one I know your crying about having to play 4 SL sides but on the flip side you had 4 home games to Wakefields 3 so get over it or just continue to throw insults out and at least you've got some kind of cup final to go to haven't you
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Jesus, intelligence is in short supply in your house then. You don't understand what I said and your mum, unfortunately, didn't understand contraception.
I wasn't moaning about it I was pointing out that result alone doesn't tell us much. As you point out its about 7 matches.
I think Leigh can beat one of Hull KR and Hudds. That would leave them needing to them beat the last Championship club they have to play and a SL team will be relegated.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Jesus, intelligence is in short supply in your house then. You don't understand what I said and your mum, unfortunately, didn't understand contraception.
I wasn't moaning about it I was pointing out that result alone doesn't tell us much. As you point out its about 7 matches.
I think Leigh can beat one of Hull KR and Hudds. That would leave them needing to them beat the last Championship club they have to play and a SL team will be relegated.'"
You're a pretty strange bloke.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Jesus, intelligence is in short supply in your house then. You don't understand what I said and your mum, unfortunately, didn't understand contraception.
I wasn't moaning about it I was pointing out that result alone doesn't tell us much. As you point out its about 7 matches.
I think Leigh can beat one of Hull KR and Hudds. That would leave them needing to them beat the last Championship club they have to play and a SL team will be relegated.'"
So apart from the insults you still can't see what everyone else is pointing out YOUR MOANING and before you comeback with an insult try something different than your mother should have used contraception blah blah it wasn't funny the first time never mind the third
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"So apart from the insults you still can't see what everyone else is pointing out YOUR MOANING and before you comeback with an insult try something different than your mother should have used contraception blah blah it wasn't funny the first time never mind the third'"
How hard is it for you to understand? I WAS NOT MOANING! People think Salford are down because they lost to a championship club. They are not. They lost to a championship club last year they weren't relegated. I think if Leigh can pick off another one (and they will) they will go up automatically. That means at least one superleague club will be relegated. I look forward to them moaning!
Now go play out and get off your parents' computer. I'd recommend playing out on a motorway, building site or railway line!
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"You're a pretty strange bloke.'"
You don't know me - creep!
Haven't you got some washing lines to rob?
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"How hard is it for you to understand? I WAS NOT MOANING! People think Salford are down because they lost to a championship club. They are not. They lost to a championship club last year they weren't relegated. I think if Leigh can pick off another one (and they will) they will go up automatically. That means at least one superleague club will be relegated. I look forward to them moaning!
Now go play out and get off your parents' computer. I'd recommend playing out on a motorway, building site or railway line!'"
Nobody is saying salford are down yes you are moaning but I understand your bitterness your bullmainia days are long gone your watching third rate rugby in the worlds worst stadiums in one of the country's biggest dumps now run along because nobody's interested in what Bradford failed to do last year
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Nobody is saying salford are down yes you are moaning but I understand your bitterness your bullmainia days are long gone your watching third rate rugby in the worlds worst stadiums in one of the country's biggest dumps now run along because nobody's interested in what Bradford failed to do last year'"
I think you need to be careful of what you say. It was only 10 years ago that we were in the same position. Yes Bradford have had an almighty fall from grace but gloating about makes you look bad. FWIW I agree there is a bit of moaning going on but the guy is entitled to it after the crap the Bulls have gone through in the past few years.
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"I think you need to be careful of what you say. It was only 10 years ago that we were in the same position. Yes Bradford have had an almighty fall from grace but gloating about makes you look bad. FWIW I agree there is a bit of moaning going on but the guy is entitled to it after the crap the Bulls have gone through in the past few years.'"
I don't have to be careful the guy just kept coming back with insults if we went down I wouldn't moan like him like we had some god given right to be in SL I've watched my club home and away in the third division and didn't cry like macbull the thread was about Salford after all but you defend him if you like
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| Quote ="LifeLongHKRFan"I think you need to be careful of what you say. It was only 10 years ago that we were in the same position. Yes Bradford have had an almighty fall from grace but gloating about makes you look bad. FWIW I agree there is a bit of moaning going on but the guy is entitled to it after the crap the Bulls have gone through in the past few years.[/quot
I don't think he is entitled to it. The crap the Bulls have gone through have mainly stemmed from themselves.
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| Quote ="Willzay"
I don't think he is entitled to it. The crap the Bulls have gone through have mainly stemmed from themselves.'"
Well, stemmed from poor management, hardly things that are within a fans control, so I think he (and any other fans who's clubs management have messed things up) is entitled to have a moan about it.
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| Quote ="DGM"Well, stemmed from poor management, hardly things that are within a fans control, so I think he (and any other fans who's clubs management have messed things up) is entitled to have a moan about it.'"
But he says he's not moaning
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| Well, he's not wrong in that Salford DID lose to a champ club last year and still stayed up (and even avoided the mpg).
However, the difference this time around is the order of the fixtures and the recent loss at home to HKR has left them on only 2 points after three games. You would expect them to still be on 2 points after their next game as well (Leeds).
The combination of losing to at least two SL clubs and also at least one champ club means you're pretty much nailed on for the mpg at best. Salford's last three games are against the remaining three champ clubs London, Batley and Featherstone. They will be under some serious pressure in those games, knowing that anything less than 3 wins could see them automatically relegated.
Despite all this, I still think Leigh will find themselves in the mpg - most likely against Salford. Their recent match up could quite easily have gone the other way had Salford been a bit more clinical with their chances.
As I've mentioned previously in this thread, Leeds could still cause chaos in these 8s if they get themselves safe before the last round of fixtures and go into their game against Leigh with pretty much nothing to play for and lose.
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| To get back to the original focus: are we (as a grey haired and grey bearded Salfordian, we) going down: it's very possible. The body language on Friday v HKR suggested no confidence by the team. We're losing MCB who is a proven try scorer. We have a visit to Headingley and our record there is only slightly better than the survivability rates of pilots flying Kamikaze missions. We (i.e. the fans, the players, the staff, and the public) await Dr K's decision on him staying. As far as we know no one else is interested in running Salford (Mr Orange has showed a little but I have reservations about this). This uncertainty is affecting fans and players.
If we go down, will we survive? With the costs of the AJ Bell and less finance: NO.
Gloat. I'm not.
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"To get back to the original focus: are we (as a grey haired and grey bearded Salfordian, we) going down: it's very possible. The body language on Friday v HKR suggested no confidence by the team. We're losing MCB who is a proven try scorer. We have a visit to Headingley and our record there is only slightly better than the survivability rates of pilots flying Kamikaze missions. We (i.e. the fans, the players, the staff, and the public) await Dr K's decision on him staying. As far as we know no one else is interested in running Salford (Mr Orange has showed a little but I have reservations about this). This uncertainty is affecting fans and players.
If we go down, will we survive? With the costs of the AJ Bell and less finance: NO.
Gloat. I'm not.'"
Isn't there 3 interested parties looking to take over if the doc quits
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| Quote ="Hillbilly_Red"To get back to the original focus: are we (as a grey haired and grey bearded Salfordian, we) going down: it's very possible. The body language on Friday v HKR suggested no confidence by the team. We're losing MCB who is a proven try scorer. We have a visit to Headingley and our record there is only slightly better than the survivability rates of pilots flying Kamikaze missions. We (i.e. the fans, the players, the staff, and the public) await Dr K's decision on him staying. As far as we know no one else is interested in running Salford (Mr Orange has showed a little but I have reservations about this). This uncertainty is affecting fans and players.
If we go down, will we survive? With the costs of the AJ Bell and less finance: NO.
Gloat. I'm not.'"
The Dr's latest threat intrigues me, did he issue his warning of walking away before the Huddersfield game, only everything seemed rosy at that point?
For the life of me I don't know why he didn't just keep shtum until after the competition.
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| The statement came after the appeal was dismissed. From sources very close to the doctor, he was quite optimistic of winning. But the statement to announce a decision AFTER the mid eights is the cruncher for me.
This is a personal opinion: on Friday (v HKR) the body language of our players showed little self-belief. There was some evidence of this in the preceding game v Leigh. It doesn't take much to get into a person's thinking: the comment that he might pull the plug will niggle away as the players' bread depend on their salaries. As professionals they will try to fight through this but the effect weakens their resolve when other matters cause problems (as the many errors on Friday did). Confidence and self-belief are key to sporting success: they looked missing. I am putting some of this (OK, much of this) down to the uncertainty of our future. An easy matter to solve.
As for the three possible investors: who? Who would take on a club with declining gates (don't blame the Salford posters/viewers on here: we go), with the expense of the A J Bell and possible Championship games' finances, and taking on the marketing power of City and United to get people interested?
Oh well, they're my team and my wrinkles.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Well, he's not wrong in that Salford DID lose to a champ club last year and still stayed up (and even avoided the mpg).
However, the difference this time around is the order of the fixtures and the recent loss at home to HKR has left them on only 2 points after three games. You would expect them to still be on 2 points after their next game as well (Leeds).
The combination of losing to at least two SL clubs and also at least one champ club means you're pretty much nailed on for the mpg at best. Salford's last three games are against the remaining three champ clubs London, Batley and Featherstone. They will be under some serious pressure in those games, knowing that anything less than 3 wins could see them automatically relegated.
Despite all this, I still think Leigh will find themselves in the mpg - most likely against Salford. Their recent match up could quite easily have gone the other way had Salford been a bit more clinical with their chances.
As I've mentioned previously in this thread, Leeds could still cause chaos in these 8s if they get themselves safe before the last round of fixtures and go into their game against Leigh with pretty much nothing to play for and lose.'"
Agree with most of this but think Leighs result v kr and hudds will determine mpg.salford v hudd has my money on it .Although I'm still not confident my team is safe
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| I'll say it then. Well done Leigh. A superleague club will be relegated and I have to admit I'm well pleased about it.
The mpg is likely to be a combination of two Salford, hull KR and Huddersfield.
Enjoy it and remember no moaning! Ha ha ha ha
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Didn't Leigh's attendances actually [ifall[/i last time they won promotion?'"
No unless you know otherwise!
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| "Enjoy it and remember no moaning! Ha ha ha ha"
From all I've read and all I'v been told, no one[u enjoys[/u the MPG.
And it's now our only hope; we might not even get that far.
When I was mulling over the mid 8's, I mentioned to some friends that if both Salford and Huddersfield were relegated, with no offence to our colleagues in Hull, it ceases to be the M62 game. It becomes the M6/M1 game.
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