And he won MOM in last seasons Grand Final against Wire yet Ablett was streets ahead of him in that game.

Care to provide anything resembling evidence for these ridiculous statements? I'd love to know what proportion of his kicks go out on the full, I would imagine it's miniscule, and I would imagine also that his forward passes and knock ons would compare favourably with most. I'm willing to accept I'm wrong, once you provide the mountain of evidence you've obviously used to come to these conclusions (don't forget to include comparative stats for other players, wouldn't want you seeming like an agenda driven crackpot now would we...)

Just because you think every member (I've got that right haven't I, every single member?) of the Storm squad, including the 3/4 line who were outclassed by their opposite numbers (including a second rower playing out of position) are better, along with at least fifty others, doesn't make it so. Likewise your baffling insistence that he isn't a great leader because we lost a fair few early in the season - am I to assume that Cameron Smith is therefore rubbish because the Storm lost five on the bounce at the back end of the season? Even with (at least) 17 players better than Sinfield in his team? He must be a dreadful captain. But then, when it mattered, both led their teams to the top prize didn't they, so maybe they know what they're doing.

Swap Sinfield with his opposite number in either of the GF semi's or finals in the last two seasons and I'd wager the opposition would win. He makes the right decisions on an overwhelmingly regular basis, he's an exceptional kicker, he's a great reader of the game and I have absolutely no doubt he is the best leader we have in England by a huge distance - if you can't see that then, in my humble opinion, you're either biased or you don't understand what he does.

Course you are.

Were you worried about Widdup's display, as Sinfield's main competitor for the 6 jersey?

Leeds had three players on display on friday that have and can play half for England. If I were you I'd be more worried about your club pulling it's socks up and doing it's share to produce players for England....as an England fan of course.

Colour me delusional then because he looked pretty good in those Grand Finals in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2011. Were you at any of those?

I've watched Kevin his entire career. Nothing but class. I really can't understand the vitriol such a fine sportsman garners from certain "fans" of our game. He's a great ambassador for the sport.

Yes Widdops performance wasn't the best, but he's not the England captain. Sinfields has done the business for Leeds in the past. Aginst the Aussies he's always struggled, then again so have many other players. But the stage was set for him, he is named England captain, he controversially won the golden boot, the Aussies were in up roar, here was his chance to prove he can do it against Australias' best, he is the man to lead England in a WC final, he is worthy of the golden boot.... and he went missing.

I've just been so frustrated in the past where we all get our hopes up we're going to beat the Aussies, then we get let down and the players don't perform. It was just de ja vu for me and i can see the same thing happening in the WC. Reason i singled him out, he's the captain and been made the main man by Mcnamara. Time he stood up againt the Aussies.

Which is one reason I think for putting him alongside Brough in the halves perhaps.

This thread is pathetic. No wonder no-one beyond the M62 takes the sport seriously.

Totally agree. Sinfield winning the Golden Boot has made our sport a laughing stock.

You're either an idiot or a troll. If you're an idiot then our sport has plenty already, so please go away. If you're a troll then this message board has plenty already and they're better than you, so please go away.

Translation: I am a Bulls fan and I hate the Rhinos and their hugely successful captain.

I don't know if you're convincing yourself about your motives but apart from the idiot Ponner I doubt you're convincing anyone else.

Thanks for proving my point, Ponner.

I'm looking forward to Sinfield playing the leading role for England in the RLWC.

Very much so in fact.

And you'll no doubt produce endless statistics to show why you are looking forward to it.

Sinfield is a good solid Super League Player.

See now what you could have countered my argument by stating why Sinfield should be the captain and is the man to lead England. But you've used petty Insults?

I still stand by my point, is Sinfield the main person to lead England against the Aussies? He's never produced the goods against the Aussies. He didn't again on Friday.

McNamara will select him anyway that is obvious. Abd if Sinfield leads us to glory I will happily eat my words and admit I was wrong.

Never?

I must have imagined his performance the last time Leeds met Melbourne in a World Club Challenge. Likewise his performance against Manly last year, or against Canterbury in 2005.

Here, have a straw. The ones you're clutching at appear to have broken.

He has produced against the Australians and NZs as pointed out above, also who then if not Somfield is a better captain and leader?

He is the best we've got, whether that is enough we will have to wait and see.

Not too sure in all honesty who could be the other captain. But I much prefer a leadership group. The only ones are nailed on for the England jersey are probably too young such as Tomkins, Hall etc.

So Sinfield probably is the best leader we've got, but if that's the reason for his inclusion in the team, then McNamara should get Peacock back.

If Sinfield was England's 13, I would be happy for him to be in the in the side, But he is going to be the most important position on the field at 6 and I don't think he's creative enough IMHO

It doesn't matter if you put a 13 on Sinfields Back he will play the same game.

Peacock has retired, but if your going on past wins why would you put him as captain, he's never captained a win against the Aussies.

Admit it you just don't like Sinfield for some reason and your just trying to find a reason not to have him as captain when he's clearly the best man for the job at this moment in time.

Oh and who would you have at 6?

Oh and who would you have at 6?

I didn't insult you, just ponner.

I think it's clear where you're coming from and you've typed nothing to change my view.

I don't have the patience to explain Sinfield's credentials as a captain to you but ask around who is the most successful captain Super League has ever produced.

Put Tomkins to 6, Brough 7 and give Hardaker the full back shirt.

Really? Danny Brough?



Brough is a poor mans Briers. He is 30 years old and has yet to put a full season together in his entire career. He is the epitome of a small-town hero. The type of player whose eye-catching play is all down to him, but whose poor efforts are always down to someone else. There is a reason Brough got bombed out of the only decent sized club he played for, and there is a reason his success in a 10 year career consists of a single challenge cup.

If Danny Brough is the answer, we are asking the wrong question.