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| Quote ="SRC"Exactly right.
I'm a Barrow fan and most people describe our ground as a dump (or something similar). We do own our ground, but it has seen better days - especially compared to 'new' stadia.
However, selling it and sharing a council owned ground will probably never happen. Mainly because there have been many, many clubs who went down the route of selling up with the best intentions at the time, and now lead a nomadic existence. Great traditional clubs like Oldham, Hunslet and Swinton are charged a fortune to lease a home stadium and are regularly told that the 'borrowed' stadium is unavailable.
Sheffield are moving from a soul-less athletics stadium to a soul-less all seater football stadium, Doncaster can't afford to play at their new stadium, Wigan had to play a 'home' game at Widnes etc etc etc.
Craven Park (Barrow) will be redeveloped up to SL standard at a fraction fo the cost of a new stadium. And it won't mean selling the family silver.
For me, the only things that matter about a stadium are:
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2) Can you see the pitch
3) Does it have satisfactory facilities
4) Is it full
If you get the first 3, then I'm happy. If you get the 4th I'm delighted. A game lasts 80 minutes after all. What else do you need ?????
Ask the Wigan fans about their visit to Barrow in the Cup. A superb day with a superb atmosphere. Everyone could see the match, everyone survived the day and anyone who wanted a drink got one. OK, the toilets were an issue (
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Selling up is folly. Wakefield, Cas and Salford should think very carefully. If they ever dropped out of SL, they would have the use of a nice new stadium, but would have very little else.'" lot of people dont wont leave our old grounds but to earn money you need to and by the way cas or Wakie will not paying rent on our grounds our councell are the tight they wont put a penny in to the projects.
If Cas went into the other division we have a proven record that we can survive we got 3 time bigger crowds than any other clubs.
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| Quote ="Victoria tiger"lot of people dont wont leave our old grounds but to earn money you need to and by the way cas or Wakie will not paying rent on our grounds our councell are the tight they wont put a penny in to the projects.
If Cas went into the other division we have a proven record that we can survive :199507oiwe got 3 time bigger crowds than any other clubs.[/
For a one season holiday , a 3/6/9/ year / forever emigration I believe would be very different
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="Victoria tiger"lot of people dont wont leave our old grounds but to earn money you need to and by the way cas or Wakie will not paying rent on our grounds our councell are the tight they wont put a penny in to the projects.
If Cas went into the other division we have a proven record that we can survive we got 3 time bigger crowds than any other clubs.[/quote
For a one season holiday , a 3/6/9/ year / forever emigration I believe would be very different
'" '" Diffrent in Cas we eat sleep and sh-te rugby we would go no lower than 3 thousand for poor match It is very to hard to explain but what else would we do, not many watch football in Cas or any other sports Rugby is all we know.
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| Quote ="Victoria tiger"Quote ="Starbug"Diffrent in Cas we eat sleep and sh-te rugby we would go no lower than 3 thousand for poor match It is very to hard to explain but what else would we do, not many watch football in Cas or any other sports Rugby is all we know.'" '"
I dont disagree , but I also dont think you quite understand what a long term exclusion from the top tier based on location could do to your club
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| Quote ="Victoria tiger"Quote ="Starbug"Diffrent in Cas we eat sleep and sh-te rugby we would go no lower than 3 thousand for poor match It is very to hard to explain but what else would we do, not many watch football in Cas or any other sports Rugby is all we know.'" '"
The amount of Leeds United shirts on show around the town says different.
If Leeds Utd were ever back in the Premier League, I'd wager it'd harm Wakefield and Castleford far more than it would harm Leeds Rhinos.
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| Things that a stadium NEEDS to be classed as premier in this country (in my opinion):
All stands MUST be covered.
Nothing obstructing the view anywhere in each stand (so no stanchions)
Plenty of toilets, catering stands, etc.
At least 6,000 seats.
At least 12,000 capacity.
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| I couldn't care less what a stadium has as long as it is safe and allows people to have a good time watching RL
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| Quote ="Starbug"I couldn't care less what a stadium has as long as it is safe and allows people to have a good time watching RL'"
Indeed. Not enough 'character' at grounds these days, and it's not getting any better with umpteen off-the-shelf stadia, including our own. Long live Craven Park and the likes.
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| Another bad thing about old grounds is that even when watching on TV you still dont get the best views. Especially when it comes to replays and when your getting decisions going to big screen.
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| Quote ="FC Callum"Another bad thing about old grounds is that even when watching on TV you still dont get the best views. Especially when it comes to replays and when your getting decisions going to big screen.'"
Can't actually think of any examples of what you mean, but I'll go along with it and simply state that said clubs would just need to relocate their camera gantry, rather than rebuild their ground.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Quote ="Victoria tiger"
The amount of Leeds United shirts on show around the town says different.
If Leeds Utd were ever back in the Premier League, I'd wager it'd harm Wakefield and Castleford far more than it would harm Leeds Rhinos.'" '"
So some people have shirts i have a west tigers shirt despite never having been to australia, and england ru shirt despite never being to an england ru game and not liking the sport and a deportivo la coruna shirt despite never having gone to a game and not liking football.
Also man united and chelsea shirts are just as common in cas as leeds united, the vast majority of people that wear them dont go to football games but do go to rugby games both ametuer and proffesional.
I dont think anyone who doesnt come from cas has the first idea what rugby league means to the town, its the most important thing, more people talk about amatuer rl in the town than they do about all of football, only in cas have i ever seen signs in pubs saying that in the event of a clash between football and rugby on the telly rugby will always be shown.
If everywhere in the country had the same attitude towards rl as cas, then rl would be the national sport.
I've met plenty of leeds fans from cas, only one of them ever chose leeds united over cas and everyone in the pub took the p*s all night long.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Things that a stadium NEEDS to be classed as premier in this country (in my opinion):
All stands MUST be covered.
Nothing obstructing the view anywhere in each stand (so no stanchions)
Plenty of toilets, catering stands, etc.
At least 6,000 seats.
At least 12,000 capacity.'"
I'm not sure on catering stands. I don't mind having one or two pints at a game if the mood takes me but is there any real need for an abundance of food outlets being in the criteria?
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"I'm not sure on catering stands. I don't mind having one or two pints at a game if the mood takes me but is there any real need for an abundance of food outlets being in the criteria?'"
well nigel wood may have to visit your ground at some point....
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| Quote ="the artist"well nigel wood may have to visit your ground at some point....'"
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Indeed. Not enough 'character' at grounds these days, and it's not getting any better with umpteen off-the-shelf stadia, including our own. Long live Craven Park and the likes.'"
Yeah, there was nothing better than standing in the freezing rain on an uncovered stand and having to wade through pi$$ when you visited the stinking 'facilities'.
Those were the days, eh?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Yeah, there was nothing better than standing in the freezing rain on an uncovered stand and having to wade through pi$$ when you visited the stinking 'facilities'.
Those were the days, eh?
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Unfortunatley those were the days when we had a lot more fans than now
These days yes the smell is better , mostly because the toilets are empty
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| Quote ="Starbug"Unfortunatley those were the days when we had a lot more fans than now'"
Not the case for all clubs. And in any case, are you seriously suggesting that better stadia are putting fans off going?
Quote ="Starbug"These days yes the smell is better , mostly because the toilets are empty'"
The smell is better because there are toilets instead of a wall to pi$$ against.
I really don't get this rosy-spectacled longing for old and crumbling stadia not fit for human habitation. Are you all masochists or something?
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| Quote ="Kosh":15meungfNot the case for all clubs. And in any case, are you seriously suggesting that better stadia are putting fans off going?
The smell is better because there are toilets instead of a wall to pi$$ against.
I really don't get this rosy-spectacled longing for old and crumbling stadia not fit for human habitation. Are you all masochists or something?'" , we prefer blood,spit and ' real ' sport , that means something to us , good though the KC is , it does not get anywhere near the Boulevard
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| True, I've never felt threatened with violence at the KC for starters
Starbug, if you truly prefere life in second rate, run down and out of date facilities, you keep em.
Me, I'll stick to a world class, award winning venue and get a better view of the action
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| When did the game and some supporters become so snobby? Fans of certain teams will be wanting heated seats next. I know some grounds are not up to scratch but in all cases the teams are trying their hardest to rectify this. Does not make anyone better than another. A lot of teams in SL are fortunate to be in the situation the are in with stadia built by football clubs, not with much imput from themselves.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Yeah, there was nothing better than standing in the freezing rain on an uncovered stand and having to wade through pi$$ when you visited the stinking 'facilities'.
Those were the days, eh?
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Stop being over-dramatic, you tart. Matt has a different opinion to you. Get over it.
Personally, I don't like new stadia. The only 'new' RL stadium I like, is the Galpharm. But that's only because of it's location. My two least favourite stadiums for watching any sport are SFS, DW and The Reebok. If I wanted to watch the game in a comfy seat in a serene environment, I could quite easily stay at home and save £20 plus beer money.
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| Quote ="Code13"True, I've never felt threatened with violence at the KC for starters
Starbug, if you truly prefere life in second rate, run down and out of date facilities, you keep em.
Me, I'll stick to a world class, award winning venue and get a better view of the action'"
Allianz Arena is world class. Dortmund have a great stadium too. Eastlands and the Emirates are highly regarded too. There are many more. No RL stadium in this country comes close to matching any of these stadiums.
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| I hate having to get up and sit down again every 5 minutes because some weak bladdered cretin wants a pi$$. You can't beat standing - in a ground like Castleford's i have to say (brilliant atmosphere). Call me cloth capped - i prefer "retro" stadiums .....anyday !!!
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| Quote ="littlerich"I hate having to get up and sit down again every 5 minutes because some weak bladdered cretin wants a pi$$. You can't beat standing - in a ground like Castleford's i have to say (brilliant atmosphere). Call me cloth capped - a prefer "retro" stadiums
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I agree with you (and not just the cas part) any stadium that doesnt offer the opportunity to stand immediatley goes down in my estimation ie hudds has got quite a good ground but i will never enjoying going there as you have to sit (we were made to sit down even though we were on the back row!).
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| Quote ="Enfield Exile"Stop being over-dramatic, you tart. Matt has a different opinion to you. Get over it.'"
I think my irony-o-meter just exploded.
I wasn't challenging his right to hold an opinion, I was disagreeing with it. Hyperbole to make a point is hardly over-dramatising, and TBH Starbug does it all the time.
Have a nice day.
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