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| You could now, by far the strongest side but a few years ago 07/08 Saints were better and in the former, by some distance
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| Quote ="Dico"You could now, by far the strongest side but a few years ago 07/08 Saints were better and in the former, by some distance'"
Even though Leeds won 3 of the 4 games against Saints in 07, concluding with one of the widest winning margins in GF history?
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| Saints were big fabourites going into both of those grand finals. All round I thought they were a much better side, they also won the cup both seasons too. The league table in 08 ended up close but IIRC saints let slip something like a 6 point lead at one point as they cruised into the business end
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"using reasoning, logic, and evidence?
you should try it some time, it makes much more sense than the Dally style of just repeating idiotic statements, untruths, and then quickly trying to change the subject when his idiocy has been shown up
a little like you're trying now
do you want to log in as Barry now? try and pretend there is another idiot as big as you out there?'"
well i couldve also mentioned the fact that anderson won 2 CC finals, the league leaders shield, made 2 SL grand finals where they were strong favourites in the first.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Brian Smith, John Monie or Daniel Anderson ring any bells? And don't give me the "they were NRL coaches before going to SL" Bollox! You can't only include the ones that suit your argument...well not unless you're a pea-brained Ocker, in which case you can continue to spout she-ite and no one will be in the least bit surprised. I'm sure you're also aware and choosing to ignore the fact that McGuire was being head hunted for at least 2 current NRL head coaches jobs before accepting the Wigan post.'"
again, were established NRL / ARL coaches prior to SL gigs. think about it, youll get there eventually.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"well i couldve also mentioned the fact that anderson won 2 CC finals, the league leaders shield, made 2 SL grand finals where they were strong favourites in the first.
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yes, exactly like this Dally
where you try to change the argument to something different because you have been shown up, its just childish
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"My great grand father could probably coach Leeds to the SL title.
And he's been dead since 1985'"
He was probably English.
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| Quote ="rufustanner"He was probably English.'"
with a whole string of convictions. many of them against animals
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| Quote ="Barry_McKenzie"My great grand father could probably coach Leeds to the SL title.
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My grandfather died in 1985 - christ I hope I'm not your father
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| I know the post is largely a windup, i'm just wondering what Slater did massively wrong against NZ. If people are blaming him for Sau's try, I don't think there's a FB in the world who would have stopped him on his own (and it essentially was on his own as JT was being a powder puff from the side, and Hannant was always going to be ineffective stopping Sau from behind him)
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"yes, exactly like this Dally
where you try to change the argument to something different because you have been shown up, its just childish'"
hey brian mclennan is a really good coach.
but a game plan consisting of having a cup of kava before the game doesnt work in the nrl.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I know the post is largely a windup'"
...exactly. Just a bit of pre-match banter. The Aussies aren't immune to mistakes and we should give them plenty of stick on saturday.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"hey brian mclennan is a really good coach.
but a game plan consisting of having a cup of kava before the game doesnt work in the nrl.'"
yet it worked repeatedly on the Aussie national side and against australian coaches
i was there, at Elland Road, when Brian Mclennan and his team annihilated Wayne Bennets Australia,
I was there at Elland Road when Brian Mclennans team beat Craig Bellamys side
and i watched Brian Mclennans side smash Daniel Andersons side, when arguably in all three matches he had the weaker squad to work with
if he has the inbreds angry, Brian Mclennan must be doing something right
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| Showed how poor he is under the high ball and what a cry baby and thug he is when things aren't going the aussies way
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| Quote ="ExiledWool"Showed how poor he is under the high ball ...'"
And yet he is still light years in front of anyone you have.
Quote ...and thug he is '"
[urlhttp://www.rlphotos.fotopic.net/p61856711.html[/url
What a mongrel. Attacking the fingers of English players with his eyes.
Nevermind the several occasions when he used his nose maliciously against their forearms.
Fortunately the kind Englishmen took great care, using their hands on the back of his head to try and stop him smashing his face into the turf after he was tackled.
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| Quote ="ExiledWool"Showed how poor he is under the high ball and what a cry baby and thug he is when things aren't going the aussies way'"
I'm honestly completey amazed that's what you genuinely think of Billy Slater. Have you watched him much?
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| Quote ="Stormin' Robin"And yet he is still light years in front of anyone you have.
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What a mongrel. Attacking the fingers of English players with his eyes.
Nevermind the several occasions when he used his nose maliciously against their forearms.
Fortunately the kind Englishmen took great care, using their hands on the back of his head to try and stop him smashing his face into the turf after he was tackled.'"
lee smiths just practicing for union, he doesn't count
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| Quote ="Stormin' Robin"And yet he is still light years in front of anyone you have.
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What a mongrel. Attacking the fingers of English players with his eyes.
Nevermind the several occasions when he used his nose maliciously against their forearms.
Fortunately the kind Englishmen took great care, using their hands on the back of his head to try and stop him smashing his face into the turf after he was tackled.'"
If you actually watch the game and look for hands, fingers, forearms to the face you will see a high proportion are wearing green and gold.
What Smith did was unnecessary and not acceptable in the same way at Tompkins being picked up and thrown to the floor.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"again, were established NRL / ARL coaches prior to SL gigs. think about it, youll get there eventually.'"
...and you are trying to say that SL only gets coaches who can't hack it in the NRL or that can't get a gig after coaching in SL. Neither of which is true, as those names above (among others) clearly show.
Think about it, you'll get there eventually.
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| Slater's OK. But he'll never be good enough to wipe a prime Minichiello's boots.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I'm honestly completey amazed that's what you genuinely think of Billy Slater. Have you watched him much?'"
I don't think he is a great defensive full back, but that's not what he's there for.
Until we stop thinking that full backs need to be better defensively rather than in attack we'll continue to pick plodders like Briscoe and have one less weapon against the worlds best sides.
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| hopefully jordan tansey will have a big year at hull. hes looked pretty handy when i've seen him at full back
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| Quote ="Bighead"hopefully jordan tansey will have a big year at hull. hes looked pretty handy when i've seen him at full back'"
Jordan Tansey is a very skillfull player, just couldn't get a run in the leeds side, he will go well at hull, he didnt look out of his depth playing forthe Chooks either.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Slater's OK. But he'll never be good enough to wipe a prime Minichiello's boots.'"
Mini's back is buggered. He can't even reach down to wipe his own boots these days.
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| Quote ="Steve Ella's Beard"I'm honestly completey amazed that's what you genuinely think of Billy Slater. Have you watched him much?'"
I must admit it's a side of him I hadn't seen before and was surprised by it. As a player I'd argue there's no-one better but his temperament was clearly suspect in that game
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