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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Never mind Widnes being former "cup kings", where were the Leeds fans ???
They'll all be their when the finals come around pretending that they give a damn and showing how "loyal" they are.'"
It's not Leeds job to fill every away ground they go to, it's Widnes job to fill their stadium, any fans Leeds bring are a bonus, I bet at least 800 where from Leeds. Probably doubled that if played on a Sunday.
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| I said on the Leeds forum that Widnes have become a zombie club, typical of any club that James Rule comes in contact with. It'll be sad to see (although I don't think it'll happen), but I wouldn't mind seeing Widnes get relegated as it might wake the Widnes board up.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"It's not Leeds job to fill every away ground they go to, it's Widnes job to fill their stadium, any fans Leeds bring are a bonus, I bet at least 800 where from Leeds. Probably doubled that if played on a Sunday.'"
Absolutely agree, it's not Leeds job to take fans to away matches.
However, supporters are supposed to support and not sit at home on their backsides, pretending that they are "Leeds no 1 fan"
Mickey poor from Widnes fans and equally poor from the Leeds fans.
The real disappointment is just how uninterested fans have become in the Challenge Cup.
Having SL sides come into the comp later on has taken all the romance out of the competition.
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| Only 4,500 tickets sold for today's Cas v Saints game. They'll be hoping for a big walk-up.
Not going to look great on national TV.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Only 4,500 tickets sold for today's Cas v Saints game. They'll be hoping for a big walk-up.
Not going to look great on national TV.'"
I highly doubt that’s true. There’s meant to be over 1000 of us coming along and there’s no way there’ll only be 3,500 Cas fans. If there’s a game last years gloryhunters will come out for its this one. Also a lot of people will be paying on the gate as obviously no season tickets for cup games.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Absolutely agree, it's not Leeds job to take fans to away matches.
However, supporters are supposed to support and not sit at home on their backsides, pretending that they are "Leeds no 1 fan"
Mickey poor from Widnes fans and equally poor from the Leeds fans.
The real disappointment is just how uninterested fans have become in the Challenge Cup.
Having SL sides come into the comp later on has taken all the romance out of the competition.'"
So I guess I am nota real fan then for not going to a game that at best after leaving work it would be 8pm before I get to Widnes and then park up and get to ground and a seat so again at best miss half of first half. 180 mile round trip for me on a Friday night along m62.
But yeah the challenge cup is in a dire state attendance wise, but playing games on a Friday night is a strange choice and is no use to anybody.
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| Quote ="AS108"I highly doubt that’s true. There’s meant to be over 1000 of us coming along and there’s no way there’ll only be 3,500 Cas fans. If there’s a game last years gloryhunters will come out for its this one. Also a lot of people will be paying on the gate as obviously no season tickets for cup games.'"
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4,500 tickets sold for #CCCasStH - and Cas hoping for a pay on the gate walk-up. Generation has grown up with Super League season tickets, both a blessing and curse when it comes to the cup.'"
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Castleford Tigers v St Helens team sheet. About 4,500 tickets sold, with 1,500 from Saints, but you can pay at the ground.'"
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| Shocking that is, still can’t get my head round that unless there’s going to be a massive amount of people paying on the gate which is possible of course. They’ve been poor this season Cas fans, shows there really was a lot of gloryhunters.
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| We played saints in exactly the same stage of the cup on tv on a Saturday exactly 1 year ago and the crowd was about 5.5k. Today's crowd will be roughly 5k.
I didn't bother with the game last year as I was working so I watched it after work. I'm doing exactly the same today. #glorysupporter.
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| £22 to get in at Widnes and £20 to get in at Castleford. Sadly lots of fans aren’t willing to part with those amounts to watch games. The majority at league games are season ticket holders, paying considerably less than this. It’s the same every year, prices need to come down for the cup games, if we are to get more people at them.
Imagine the outcry if Toronto Wolfpack got an attendance figure this low.
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| Quote ="AS108"I highly doubt that’s true. There’s meant to be over 1000 of us coming along and there’s no way there’ll only be 3,500 Cas fans. If there’s a game last years gloryhunters will come out for its this one. Also a lot of people will be paying on the gate as obviously no season tickets for cup games.'"
Last years gloryhunters vs this years gloryhunter then
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| Maybe few fans care about the CC these days? I actually forgot we were playing last night; fifteen years ago I'd have gone.
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| I really don't like 8 teams entering at the last 16 mark. It's boring.
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| I don't suppose the announced attendance had anything to do with the home club having to share the gate money with the away club?
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| what was the leigh crowd?
2600 at huddersfield
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"what was the leigh crowd?
2600 at huddersfield'"
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| Quote ="GIANTSRL"what was the leigh crowd?
2600 at huddersfield'"
Shocking attendance, why won't wakey fans travel in huge numbers just 10 miles away for a local derby knockout game. Eh Wrencat
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Shocking attendance, why won't wakey fans travel in huge numbers just 10 miles away for a local derby knockout game. Eh Wrencat'"
Huddersfield isn't a derby for us, I don't think they even have a derby match maybe wrong. Apparently we took around a 1000 last night.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Huddersfield isn't a derby for us, I don't think they even have a derby match maybe wrong. Apparently we took around a 1000 last night.
Up the Trin'"
maybe halifax is the closest derby for us but not been in the same league for a long time now.
1000 my a*se. 300 more accurate
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| 4,026 at Leigh last night, approx 300 from Salford at start of the match & approx 40 with 5 minutes left to play !
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"4,026 at Leigh last night, approx 300 from Salford at start of the match & approx 40 with 5 minutes left to play !'"
As many as 40 left by the end I'm surprised watching that total shower of . The only saving grace is that the admission was £21 for season ticket holders and £23 for non season ticket holders for a game against championship opposition live on Sky
Even a lot of the diehards went to the pub and put the entrance money behind the bar instead.
I'm surprised anyone went.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"£22 to get in at Widnes and £20 to get in at Castleford. Sadly lots of fans aren’t willing to part with those amounts to watch games. The majority at league games are season ticket holders, paying considerably less than this. It’s the same every year, prices need to come down for the cup games, if we are to get more people at them.
Imagine the outcry if Toronto Wolfpack got an attendance figure this low.'"
You can’t get into a top Bundesliga football game for less than that.
British sports fans are proper ripped off!
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"So I guess I am nota real fan then for not going to a game that at best after leaving work it would be 8pm before I get to Widnes and then park up and get to ground and a seat so again at best miss half of first half. 180 mile round trip for me on a Friday night along m62.'" I left work near Wakey at 1815 and was getting fish and chips in Widnes at 1940. It's a terrible excuse used by some fans of all clubs for not travelling. The game, if not a belter, was tense and exciting and well worth the investment to see Leeds win at a real bogey ground.
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| Quote ="Towns88"I really don't like 8 teams entering at the last 16 mark. It's boring.'"
Neither do I, it just adds to the problem of teams playing the same teams (and only those teams) over and over again. It also sets up the cup to be more likely to see the same few clubs getting to the final year on year. You wouldn't really expect a club from outside the SL to make the final but when nearly every year Wigan, St Helens, Warrington, Leeds, (and more recently) Hull FC and Cas all get a bye to the last 16 even the lower half of SL clubs are likely to run into one of the top teams and (usually) see their run end there.
I would rather see something like a first round of the 26 Championship & League 1 clubs plus 14 community clubs with the 20 winners then going into an open draw with the 12 SL clubs in round 2. That way you would get more potential for variation in fixtures plus big draws for lower league clubs. You would also increase the chances of a club lower down the ladder making the final which was surely part of the appeal of the cup. With fewer rounds we could also start the cup later in the season and cut out the stupid momentum killing gaps we have had.
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| Quote ="terrykelly"1,865 ! What on earth, that's not much more than Toulouse's attendances....what has happened to Widnes ? Not even on TV...poor effort.'"
What has happen?
Escaping by the skin of our teeth last year only to resign the players and didn’t budget a drop in numbers so can’t spend anymore money.
The same boring structured rugby 5 drives and a kick, go off plan and you don’t play again like D Walker.
Not dropping players out of form because there a BIG name.
It’s toxic at Widnes at the moment, I’ve been going 30 odd years just to get a buzz on match day meeting mates for a pint, now can’t be bothered going even though I’ve got a season pass. A lot of people feel the same, miserable faces in the boozer and walking down the ground knowing 80 minutes of boring rugby and probably a loss.
I don’t know who or what the problem is, Rule or Betts but the way it’s going unless they know the league structure next year we are painfully crawling into the championship.
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