agreed.

hopefully we should have big Gaz Carvell back....didn't notice anyone pick up any serious injury in tonight match? Should have a full squad to pick from.

If they play like they did in the 2nd half then yes. On 1st half performance (which wasn't bad, just not great) then could be a close contest.

we didn't play too bad in the first half tonight to be fair...Saints just had a very tight grip on territory.

Good performance from Wire, I hope they now go on and win it. Most consistent team this season and have managed to get that mental toughness to win trophies.
Not sure if they can get to a grand final every year though, they will be losing mature experienced players in the next season or two.

our under 20's won the grand final today

Why are we the favourites? We're going to be playing a team that has won the GF 4 times in the last 5 years, who have been in the final 7 times and won it 5 times and are the only team to win it from 5th place.

Yes, we've beaten them twice at Wembley in the last 3 years, but that was in our house; we're playing next week in Leeds' domain.

I think the Rhino's will still be favourites, and I prefer us to be the underdogs, makes us perform better!

Whether you like it or not the bookies will have you as favourites.

Warrington finished higher in the table, thrashed leeds in the previous 2 meetings (including the CC final) and go into the final on the back of a very impressive semi final win. It's warringtons to lose.

What's this 57 years business by the way.

Wire were about 8 point favourites for the cup. I expect Wire to be roughly 4 point favourites for the final, Leeds have McGuire back (whom they didnt have in the final), more often then not he's worth at least 1 try.

Bookies favourites, more consistent this year beat us at wembley.

You have missed out what could be an important fact here: they have won 4 out of 5 against Saints. But Saints aren't there now. They've just had the wood over us in the GF, as we did over Bradford in finals and you in, well, everything! In addition, Leeds won against Wigan on a penalty. You outplayed us in every department.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if you are the favourites.

Isn't it 57 years since Wire last won the Comp?

Sinfield was superb on Friday night at pinning Wigan back. He will have to be equally as superb next week.

If Leeds can get ahead and then defend as strongly and passionately as they did on Friday then there's no reason why they can't get the win.

Sinfield did do well on Friday BUT as the cup final showed, if you pin him back then Leeds are very few on kicking options. This allowed Hogson and the wingers to basically work out where the kicks were going before they were even sent. Maguire being back will help but a full strength Wolves side has Briers, Myler, Hodgson and Higham/Monaghan as options so hopefully Leeds will spend more time in reverse than going forward.

I think they'll have learnt from that and McGuire and Burrow will take more responsibility than they did at Wembley.

Well Maguire obviously had a reason for being absent at Wembley. All Burrow did all afternoon was go sideways and not stand square at the PTB. I still think that (HOPEFULLY) the game will be won by Warrington greater number of kicking options.

I think you're reading too much into that. The reason Leeds didn't get good kicks away in the Cup Final was because Warrington's forwards were dominant. Which is also why Burrow spent his time running sideways because Leeds forwards had made little to no impact on the Wire defensive line and so there were no holes for him to run at.
As with the vast vast majority of RL games it'll be won in the forwards.

Don't count your chickens before etc etc. Do you not remember the Cup Final and the contentious " No Try" moment which turned it in your favour. This could well go the other way.

Having said that, I wish you well. Another name of the SL trophy would be good. The same monotonous domination by the same teams is getting boring.

Leeds have ridden their luck for a while now, it's about time it ran out.

The present format has only been with us since the advent of Superleague, 18 years? Pre SL it was the premiership play-off which we won in 1988 and before that in the mid 70s. So we haven't won the play off comp in 24 years to be correct.

If you mean the league then its 12 months since we last won it.

No. I, and everyone else mean the competition that determines the champions each season. Which Wire haven't won since the 50's. The league leaders have only been declared champions in 33 seasons of Rugby League. The rest of the time the champions have been decided by the play offs. The Premiership did not decide the champions, the current SL playoffs do.

1895/96 - League position
1896-1901 - county leagues
1901/02 - 1905/06 - League position
1906/07 - 1914/15 - Playoff
1915-1919 - no comp
1919/20 - 1938/39 - Playoff
1939-45 - no comp
1945/46 - 1961/62 - Playoff
1962/63 - 1963/64 - League
1964/65 - 1972/73 - Playoff
1973/74 - 1997 - League
1998 - 2012 - Playoff

Also your own club website says Warrington last won the Championship in 1954/55.

Correct. Why the LLS debate continues astounds me.

Leeds 7/4, Warrington 8/15, so pretty clear favourites.
You are right though, Leeds seem to know how to win big games and you will have to be on your mettle to beat them.
Should be a cracker !

As much as I want Warrington to put Leeds to the sword I think Leeds will be going all out to prove that winning the final from 5th wasn't a one-off or a fluke. Warrington have to come out and play like they can, if they get dragged into an arm wrestle Leeds will take the spoils.

Wire seem to have too many aces. Myler has come on leaps and bounds, MM is outstanding, unsung hero Riley deserves more plaudits than he gets and Westwood/Hill the rest of the pack are the best in SL. Smith is the right coach to take into a final but Leeds have something as regards team spirit and living the dream plus some very useful players. Think the bookies have Wire giving 6 points but I reckon this game will hinge on a couple of errors. Leeds made hardly any against Wigan but Warrington could be prone.

Can Warrington win, course they can but Leeds haven't got to the final by default.