Kevin Penny is better.

Man of Steel is not about simply scoring tries.

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You can tell that by the way they celebrate his tries

My nan could score the tries Ryan Hall scores and shes dead.

If anyone should be MOS from the leeds team its Senior, for putting everyone of Halls tries on a plate for him.

Hall is like Kevin Penny, but uglier and without the pace.

How many backs have won the award?

Paul Wellens and Jamie Lyon are the two off the top my head.

What a load of bitter rubbish.

I know, Hall's quite cute isn't he.

James Graham will win it anyway so its all academic.

Just look at his stats. Pi$$es on every other single prop in SL by a long way. Hes dominated that much, that hes reduced peacock to a "defensive prop" a la Stuart Fielden.

I love his tanned shaved legs

Hall has everything a superb winger should have (footwork, power, great positioning and enough pace). MOS is a bit far though and IMO Graham, Peacock, Morley & Senior should be the main contenders. Senior would get my vote.

Doesn't Peacock make more metres per carry than Graham?

Hall's a great 'find' who has size, pace and power. Senior's played his part too.

Oh yes, if Ainscough had BEEN ABLE TO HOLD DOWN A PLACE in the Wigan side he might have done the same



Name a better winger in SL and don't make me laugh by mentioning Penny in the same breath - he cound his level in the Championship.

For me, only Peter Fox compares with Hall this season.

But he's no Man of Steel - that's reserved only for wingers of the iconic quality of a Martin Offiah. And Hall's not in that league. No one is.

Morley is nailed on, Challenge Cup year and all that.

Would love it to be Morley as he's been such a committed player for GB - coming back from Oz for tests mid-season etc - but i keep hearing Brett Hodgson's name for some strange reason.

He's been good but I rate Briscoe a better full-back on form this year.

1. Paul Wellens
2. Ade Gardner
3. Matt Gidley
5. Francis Meli
6. Leon Pryce
7. Sean Long
8. Jason Cayless
9. Keiron Cunningham
10. James Graham
11. Lee Gilmour
12. Jon Wilkin
13. Chris Flannery
14. James Roby
15. Bryn Hargreaves
16. Tony Puletua
17. Paul Clough
18. Kyle Eastmond
19. Chris Dean
20. Gareth Frodsham
21. Gary Wheeler
22. Shaun Magennis
23. Maurie Fa'asavalu
24. Andrew Dixon
25. Jamie Foster
26. Andrew Yates
27. Jamie Ellis
28. Matty Ashurst
29. Tom Armstrong
30. Jonny Lomax
31. Jacob Emmitt
32. Paul Johnson


Anyone of the above will win

Nope. The same, but on far less carries. If Graham was able to do half a game like Morley and peacock do, he would be able to make far more many yards per carry.

Morley plays the best part of an hour tbf.
The reason Graham doesnt make the yards is because he's too busy finding the floor and half the time the refs dont shout surrender

If Peacock could put in a part-time defensive stint like Graham does then he'd make more metres in attack too.

The reason why Hall has scored all those tries should be the MoS, Keith Senior has been brilliant this year rolling back the years.

The players won't give anything to Senior in case he sells it.....I reckon it's nailed on for Morley.

Hall won't, and shouldn't get MOS. However, he's been outstanding this year, not just because of the tries he's scored but his overall contribution to the team cannot be over estimated. His workrate is excellent, and his kick returns are excellent. He'd be class in any team, playing outside any centre.

Senior would be my pick for MOS.

I think Dobson will be in with a shout.

So yes then?

Quite a few props make more metres per carry than Graham, and quite a few make more tackles than him.

His extended game time distort his stats against the opposition.

Morley's stats are way behind Graham's, but he has been outstanding this year. Because we have 4 props, Morley's stats would never be near Graham's, but Saints have had to rely on him too much IMO.