From a personal point of view & this is my opinion only, our favourite away game is Warrington. We have made a good few friends from Warrington & always try to meet up both home & away.

Mine was always Hull FC, good set of fans always had great banter with them home and away, don't travel away so much these days. The 2 clubs have a good association via the Ste Prescott Foundation.

Well the bus we go on to the HJ half of us have Zimmer frames, and we leave our side of the stadium straight back on the bus, Hull fans roaming in gangs, is probably a figment of your imagination, as for causing the most trouble, give over, we like Warry have a section of idiots who can’t handle their pop, it’s no use casting accusations which can not be substantiated. You have a problem, your not alone, deal with it.

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The Warrington end at Wembley is not selling well.

same here always a good crack with the Wire lot, never had any issue with them, tho there does seem to be an element of young lads who seemed hell bent on goading giants fans recently which is a shame as they were never there before

So, what difference does it make?

First of all, I'm not justifying the minority of Wire fans' misbehaviour in any way. Like most Wire fans, we're all quite ashamed that those people climbing up were representing our club as supporters.

Nothing's quite black and white though (no reference to Hull!). My Dad has just returned from France after watching the game. He's 68 and always gives honest, trustworthy opinions of things. He was 30m away, but had a reasonable view of events unfolding, not the best, but nevertheless valid. He said that some of the Catalan fans in the VIP area had started to throw glass bottles and glasses at the Wire fans. One of these hit a kid and it went off from then.

There's no excuse for the scenes we saw, but without making excuses, some of you may understand why it kicked off. Its not black and white. Like most things, it takes two to tango (pardon the pun). So far, from reports from friends who went, the Catalan fans played more than a part in causing this. Also, Ben Pomeroy has been mentioned by a few- I won't say anymore!- (The post match investigation will reveal...!)

That said, those fans climbing up should be identified and punished. It's genuinely an embarrassment to me as a Wire fan and most others who are descent, respecting fans like most of you. I would like to think that most other fans have a nice experience with our fans, as I do with you if I have the pleasure to meet you in the pub before or after games. A few years back when we played Cats at Widnes in the cc semi-final, the whole stand of Wire fans stood up and clapped when the few Catalans fans made their arrival. Nice one to the previous Hudds poster as well- our friendship and respect certainly goes the other way.

We only sold 7000 last year according to some! Most wire fans buy straight from the rfl. We will take 20,000(despite the repetitive nature of it these days!!)don't worry.

They'll be loads of Wire fans as always. Even v Cats we brought a shed load. The largest CC final attendance at the new Wembley is Wire v Leeds. Not to mention 1954! - we'll be sound as a pound.

So you are blaming Catalans fans even though countless people have already said it was an ex Warrington player who threw the first bottle?

He was a Catalans player beforehand.

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But he threw the bottle at the Catalans fans for no other reason that Warrington were losing

Oh dear.....

As always the 3% of any "fans" who cause the trouble get the publicity, the 97 % who go away peacefully don`t.

The idiot element of our support only seems to come out for a big game, or a game where there is a day on the sauce on the cards and there's no football on.
But I think you could say that for a lot of RL clubs. I've been to a number grand finals (2 of which didn't involve Warrington) and witnessed some shocking stuff.
I could also write a list of nasty stuff I've witnessed since I started following RL in 1989 involving most clubs in Super League and the Championship.

Trouble at the Challenge Cup final is an absolute certainty. I don't think we'll take as many fans as we normally do because we've been in a lot of finals recently which makes the novelty wear off for the types of people who don't go to games regularly, but like to jump on the bandwagon occasionally. Given our habit of losing finals all the time making them not particularly enjoyable once you actually get there though, combined with the fact we are guaranteed to lose this one, I reckon plenty of occasional fans just won't bother. I don't want to go and considered not doing, but as someone who does go regularly all season I can't not.

By 5.30pm when the Widnes game is on I'll be back in central London watching the football in the pub, but I can be absolutely certain I will have a look on here on the train home a few hours later and see plenty of reports of trouble. Saints fans will be celebrating their win, Widnes fans will be celebrating our defeat, and plenty of Wires fans will be unhappy and react to it. There is zero chance of these things not happening. I wont be involved and I can't do anything about it so it isn't going to cost me any sleep, but it's definitely one for the angry typists on here to look forward to.

Hope you are wrong mate, and the final is contested in the spirit of the game, and all the supporters of all teams, come together as usual in harmony, and good will.

I've seen some outbreaks of fights at loads of finals I've been to, some involving Wires and some not. On pretty much all occasions the narrative on RL social media has been to blame people not wearing colours (like me) or people who like football (like me). Funnily enough though, I wasn't involved on any occasion but have witnessed grown men in face paint, grown men in jester hats, and on one occasion a grown man in a full wolf costume, firmly in the thick of it. I don't know if they liked football or not because I didn't stop and ask them, but their RL allegiances (as I said, sometimes Wires, sometimes not) were plastered all over them.

I've always found Warrington a friendly enough place to go to, although as a Wakey fan I suppose I don't follow a team the Wire would regard as a rival. I've sat in Warrington pubs pre-game and not had a jot of bother, nor when making my way from the ground afterwards.

I'm in no way condoning the Catalan spectacle, but it was a bit like modern biff: more heat than flames. It looked bad because of the standing on seats trying to get in and general clamour but there wasn't much actual fighting. But once a club gets that hooligan tag, it attracts people who like the tag, and it only takes a couple of isolated idiots with stones to further tarnish it.