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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The pressure is on now. Widnes have an opportunity to build like no-one else in Britain has had. Lets see some ambition and achievement from them. Good Luck'"
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Credit to the Widnes board for making it a formality. They did what the RFL wanted of them so deserve their shot at SL.'"
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Suddenly I'm not so sure Crusaders are guarenteed a Super League place, especially with the championship geographical expansion. Does anyone know if a team in Wales, regardless of being in the North plays any part in the TV money?
Well done Widnes anyway, though they will probably end up with the same players from the club(s) that go down anyway. Some great derbies to come.
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| Quote ="Dreamer":39fqd9fyIt's the Superleague clubs that have been given "an opportunity to build like no-one else in Britain has had" and its only their inability to create a bullet proof case that allows a championship club to get a foot in the door.'" dont actually get their ' mirage ' built , or if one of the expansion clubs collapses financially that another Championship club will get a chance next time
So hopefully in the next few days when the re hashing of the Championships is announced the RFL will come up with something that will inspire the fans of the Championship clubs to keep going , and the owners to keep investing ? |
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| Quote ="Dreamer"It's the Superleague clubs that have been given "an opportunity to build like no-one else in Britain has had" and its only their inability to create a bullet proof case that allows a championship club to get a foot in the door.'"
I meant from the point of view of a team which is coming up. |
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| Quote ="cas all the way"For me it's between Cas, wakey and fax then for the final spot. Gunna be a long wait now for them 3 teams.'"
Eh?
I don't know on what criteria Castleford are in any danger at all.
I think that, for a number of reasons, Wakefield are probably prime candidates to vacate the spot for Widnes.
If they decide to drop a second team out of Super League, then depending on how consistent they're feeling, Crusaders would be the next best bet. Otherwise, I'd suggest possibly Salford.*
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| Quote ="Mintball"Eh?
I don't know on what criteria Castleford are in any danger at all.
I think that, for a number of reasons, Wakefield are probably prime candidates to vacate the spot for Widnes.
If they decide to drop a second team out of Super League, then depending on how consistent they're feeling, Crusaders would be the next best bet. Otherwise, I'd suggest possibly Salford.*
* None of the above should be taking as meaning anything in terms of likes or dislikes.'"
Salford will have a SL stadium , Castleford have never had anything remotely like a SL stadium
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| Quote ="Roofs"Justice at last ...'"
It has nothing whatsoever to do with "justice".
The club failed the criteria last time around.
The club have passed the criteria with ease this time.
Simples.
And congratulations to Widnes.
Quote ="Starbug"Salford will have a SL stadium , Castleford have never had anything remotely like a SL stadium.'"
Or put another way: Salford "have never had anything remotely like a SL stadium" and Castleford "will have a SL stadium". Do try to be consistent. |
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| Quote ="Starbug"
It will be wakey , with twitching bottoms at Cas and potentially Crusaders'"
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Assuming that Wakey are the favourite to get the bullet, if they are relegated because of their stadium then they have to relegate Cas as well. If they are relegated because of having been in administration then they have to relegate Crusaders. Oh, but hang on, didn't they drop that rule the week before Crusaders entered administration?
It would not surprise me one bit if the RFL took the easy option and relegated nobody, raising SL to 15 teams. Yes, I know that they have already voted to stay with 14 but it could be just another case of Lewis holding the proverbial Glock to the temples of the member clubs.
As someone said earlier, the RFL must be the most unprofessional (and incompetent) sporting body on the planet. They continue to dig ever deeper holes for themselves.
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| Quote ="Starbug"But will any more clubs get that chance ? , we dont even know if this seasons results will qualify us to apply next time yet ?
Realistically it is only if Cas [ assuming it will be Wakey coming down dont actually get their ' mirage ' built , or if one of the expansion clubs collapses financially that another Championship club will get a chance next time
So hopefully in the next few days when the re hashing of the Championships is announced the RFL will come up with something that will inspire the fans of the Championship clubs to keep going , and the owners to keep investing ?'"
I would hazard a guess that, the situation regarding Halifax, will be replicated for the next round of licences, I can’t see the RFL giving the same guarantee ala Widnes next time around.
Congratulations to the Widnes fans, enjoy your next three years of unbounded aspirations, followed by the realisation you’re just making up the numbers  . |
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| Quote ="Starbug"But will any more clubs get that chance ? , we dont even know if this seasons results will qualify us to apply next time yet ?
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Not sure about that one.
I think the RFL deliberately promised at least one promotion from championship this time to show that they had teeth and were prepared to use them on any SL club that broke its promises.
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| Quote ="Mintball"It has nothing whatsoever to do with "justice".
The club failed the criteria last time around.
The club have passed the criteria with ease this time.
Simples.
And congratulations to Widnes.
Or put another way: Salford "have never had anything remotely like a SL stadium" and Castleford "will have a SL stadium". Do try to be consistent.'"
As bad as the Willows is , it is still twice the stadium that Wheldon Road is , they didn't need a change in the rules to get back into SL
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| Quote ="Starbug"As bad as the Willows is , it is still twice the stadium that Wheldon Road is , they didn't need a change in the rules to get back into SL
And unless I'm mistaken , but there is actually a stadium being built at Barton , unlike the ' Mirage ' at Glasshoughton'"
By the way starbug did you ever provide any evidence that the rules were changed for castleford? i recall you being asked last time only for you to mention a vague memory of a rule many years before 2005.
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| Quote ="Dreamer"Not sure about that one.
I think the RFL deliberately promised at least one promotion from championship this time to show that they had teeth and were prepared to use them on any SL club that broke its promises.
They may do the same again, if only to keep the dishonest clubs in line.'"
I dont mean the ' guaranteed place ' , that will not happen again , I mean the actual ' qualification to apply ' in 2014 , they havent said if this year actually counts ? , because if it doesn't it , then it de values this years NRC and GF |
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| Quote ="pyeman"By the way starbug did you ever provide any evidence that the rules were changed for castleford? i recall you being asked last time only for you to mention a vague memory of a rule many years before 2005.
And how you get that the willows is twice the stadium that wheldon road is, is beyond me, perhaps you would like to give some reasons instead of making throw away comments and not backing them up?'"
Nothing ' Vague ' about it , all the clubs were fully aware of the minimum standards required at the time , and then just like the Administration rules this time , they changed overnight without any publicity , as for the comparison between the two stadiums , dont be bloody silly |
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| Quote ="Starbug"Nothing ' Vague ' about it , all the clubs were fully aware of the minimum standards required at the time , and then just like the Administration rules this time , they changed overnight without any publicity , as for the comparison between the two stadiums , dont be bloody silly'"
So in answer to my first question you have no evidence.
And in answer to my second you arent prepared to explain your opinion, rendering it worthless.
Out of interest what did castleford do you to upset you so much? you've had a be in your bonnet about us for a few years. |
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| Quote ="Starbug"I dont mean the ' guaranteed place ' , that will not happen again , I mean the actual ' qualification to apply ' in 2014 , they havent said if this year actually counts ? , because if it doesn't it , then it de values this years NRC and GF'"
exactly why they wont say anything!!! they would kill the crowd if they did.
no matter what i'll be going to every leigh game (maybe not the toulouse game this time around) just hope all the other supporters carry on coming |
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| Quote ="Starbug"Salford will have a SL stadium , Castleford have never had anything remotely like a SL stadium
It will be wakey , with twitching bottoms at Cas and potentially Crusaders'"
If there are twitchin bottoms at Cas the teams below us in the league better get ready for the results then! |
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| Quote ="who needs flankers?"If there are twitchin bottoms at Cas the teams below us in the league better get ready for the results then!'"
Good job it doesn't work like that in the Championships then isn't it , |
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So in theory could a club like Fax or Barrow still secure a franchise in July, or was it only ever one place for a current NL club?
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| Quote ="Roofs"So in theory could a club like Fax or Barrow still secure a franchise in July, or was it only ever one place for a current NL club?'" Yes Roofs Fax are now 1 of 15 names in the frame for 13 places all the SL clubs are in it with them.
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| Quote ="Roofs"So in theory could a club like Fax or Barrow still secure a franchise in July, or was it only ever one place for a current NL club?'"
Fax, Yes
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Well done to Widnes..as a welshman I remember that fantastic side that Doug Laughton had and full of welsh superstars- Jonathon Davies being one of them. They showed the match he made his debut on live welsh TV
as for The Crusaders losing their spot in Superleague I think some of you guys haven't a clue about the development work that has been done in Wales in the past 7 years and how the game is growing.
the RL and IRL know this and a strong Wales side will help strenghen the International scene. Lets be frank this is one of 2 reasons ( money being the other ) why English RL players pimp themselves by going to Union, to play lots of international games for the England rugger side. Not becuase they are going to see lots more of the ball in a better game.
the Crusaders are the focal point for welsh youngsters who want to play superleague and the RFL ain't going to sink that ship.
IF you do want to educate yourself on [u one of Britain's fastest growing development area for RL,[/u have a deckko at these websites...and its just the tip of the iceberg
www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=4312
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... their.html
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... south.html
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... ation.html |
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Well done to Widnes..as a welshman I remember that fantastic side that Doug Laughton had and full of welsh superstars- Jonathon Davies being one of them. They showed the match he made his debut on live welsh TV
as for The Crusaders losing their spot in Superleague I think some of you guys haven't a clue about the development work that has been done in Wales in the past 7 years and how the game is growing.
the RL and IRL know this and a strong Wales side will help strenghen the International scene. Lets be frank this is one of 2 reasons ( money being the other ) why English RL players pimp themselves by going to Union, to play lots of international games for the England rugger side. Not becuase they are going to see lots more of the ball in a better game.
the Crusaders are the focal point for welsh youngsters who want to play superleague and the RFL ain't going to sink that ship.
IF you do want to educate yourself on [u one of Britain's fastest growing development area for RL,[/u have a deckko at these websites...and its just the tip of the iceberg
www.crusadersrfl.com/article.php?id=4312
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... their.html
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... south.html
www.walesrugbyleague.co.uk/artic ... ation.html | |
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