Is he big enough?

Not yet.

Charnley has scored 13 tries in his last 8 games; he looks like he's over his injury and back to last season's form to me. He also tends to stand up at important times in big games IMO, scoring in our '11 cup final v Leeds, '13 grand final v Warrington (in the second half to put us level before the conversion) and for England v Australia with 4mins to go which would have put us within a score of a draw, had it been converted.

He his incredibly strong. Both defensively and in attack. So height is not an issue when he is so strong. Seen him shrug off 3 or 4 defenders at a time.

Exactly. He's not going to get much bigger then he is really. He might fill out a bit but he'll always be on the small side for a forward but that lack of size has litter ally no impact on his game. He is as strong as an ox and hits hard in defence and it probably helps him fitness wise because he's got a great engine.

One other major plus point for me is his attitude. I know he gets under people's skins but he never takes a backwards step and anybody of that age willing to go head to head with the likes of Bailey and especially Peacock has a great deal about them.

Well that's a surprise.

Start picking championship players. At the rate they are going, England will start to struggle against France.

I wouldn't want to make too many changes to the World Cup team as I'm not sure many if a lot of the 'new' players mentioned here could come in and improve the team. The only change I would make that wouldn't be enforced would be Shenton over Cudjoe.

Clark will probably get a run from the bench and you can't argue against that on form, his stats are quite amazing in terms of tackle busts and average gain considering he plays through the middle. From what I've seen of him he thrives on a quick ruck which he won't get as often in internationals so it will be interesting to see how he goes.

Replacing Sam Burgess is the impossible task.

Id have Charnley in over Hall on current form. Hall's at the top of the SL error count and is well off his best.

I'm definitely in the Mcllorum corner, he'd be my starting hooker against the Aussies, Roby and Clark would battle it out for a bench spot.

Roby and Clark may dominate Mcllorum in the stats chart, but super league stats count for nothing in a one off test match, and Mcllorums toughness would be much more of an asset to us IMO.

McIlorum should be nowhere near the England set-up. He is average this season.

Agreed. Miles behind Clarke, and I would put him as England's fourth choice hooker behind Clarke, Roby and Burrow.

I can understand why people would select MM. Personally I wouldn't assuming everyone is fit. I'd depends what you want from your team and how you want them to play. I think there is enough aggression in the England pack to be able to select a player with a bit more flair.

Joe Westerman would be in my starting lineup, I really hope McNamara gives him that chance.

Whilst O'Loughlin is around and picking his games, Westerman wont get a start at 13.

Sam Tomkins

Josh Charnley
Kalum Watkins
Michael Shenton
Ryan Hall

Gareth Widdop
Matty Smith

James Graham
Michael McIlorum
George Burgess
Elliott Whitehead
Ben Westwood
Sean O'Loughlin

Bench:
Scott Taylor
Chris Hill
Daryl Clarke
Carl Ablett


Speed and experience in the back line.
Halves who can guide us around the field and get us field position
Forwards with plenty of aggression and good stamina
Some flair to come off the bench.
Roby should be nowhere near the England team anymore, he's a spent force.
We've been too soft at international level for too long and i feel it's time we went for aggression and pace.

If Roby shouldn't be anywhere near the England team then McIlorum shouldn't be playing professional RL. He may not be the player he once was but he is still one of the best number 9s we have. McIlorum has aggression in his favour and that is it.

Hall is top of the error count because he is asked to offload so much, and Leeds have a tactic of kicking to his corner for him to dump it back in to Moon when these hit the floor this is counted as an error but it is more of a calculated risk he isnt making a ton of errors it areas he shouldnt.

in terms of british wingers hall has the most metres, the most tackle busts, 16 clean breaks, 32 offloads, he has the 2nd most metres of anyone in SL behind Peacock. he hasnt been bad.

For once, I'm going to agree with Smokey (I'll be visiting the docs later lol). Charnley is good but I would rather have a Ryan Hall playing on the wing than a Josh Charnley any day.

I'd be stunned if Lockers doesn't pull out tbh. He's in need of a full off seasons rest after a couple of injury plagued years.

I'd love to be wrong and see him travel but I can't see it.

Ridiculous decision if O'Loughlin gets picked over Westerman.

want to make a few points before I state the team I'd go with.

Sean O'loughlin is the best 13 in the world. Personally though I hope he makes himself unavailable so he get a full off season to get back fit.

To me it seems you can only have 1 of Clark or Roby as they're both effective with quick play of the balls and using their speed around the ruck.

We need to play people where they play for their clubs.

You need 1 halfback who's an organiser and kicker and another who's got the ability to take the line on.

I wouldn't pick Sinfield because of his age, we need to be building for the next World Cup.

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Reed/Shenton
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Smith
8. Graham
9. Mcilorum
10. G Burgess
11. Farrell
12. Whitehead
13. Ablett

14. Clark
15. Taylor
16. Bateman
17. Hill

18. T. Burgess
19. J. Burgess
20. Brown
21. Reed/Shenton
22. Hardaker
23. Ferres
24. Roby

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Watkins
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Sneyd
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. G Burgess
11. Ferres
12. Whitehead
13. Westerman

14. Clark
15. Taylor
16. Westwood
17. Hill

18. T. Burgess
19. Walmsley
20. Sinfield
21. Reed
22. Hardaker
23. Ratchford
24. Ablett

Picking the leagues best 13 and one of the worlds best forwards could never be seen as ridiculous.

Form is temporary and class is permanent and all that. He's had injury issues but O'Loughlin has still be exceptional when he's played and is England's most important forward (along with Graham) now that Sam Burgess isn't available. His performances in the World Cup after an even worse campaign in terms of injuries was exceptional.

There's probably room for them both and it's probably Irrelevant because I think Lockers will pull out but if you choose between them both there's only one winner and by a wide margin.

Westerman got married yesterday. Thought it was an odd time to do it, unless he has had the call that he will be in the touring squad hence cant have his wedding at the end of the season.

or, this week could have been booked all long.........