hi rider,yup still knocking around even though I`m in the vulnerable category for this virus.hope your keeping well.

Testing is key to getting restarted as we know, sounds like our system is world class, as examined by Sky News in this thread. https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/ ... 23010?s=19

Testing is key to getting restarted as we know, sounds like our system is world class, as examined by Sky News in this thread. https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/ ... 23010?s=19

A report in today’s Hull live, suggests training by professional clubs will end the furlough scheme. Difficult position for rugby league in an already struggling sport, you can’t expect a collision game like ours, to enter matches under prepared. The madness goes on.

‘‘This was discussed earlier this week and apparently the furlough scheme ends when players actually start playing. Personally I think it will take at least 3 weeks of full contact training before players will be anywhere near ready for a full on game. How long did NRL take before they resumed? I don’t see why we can’t get up and running by 2nd week in July.

Sure I saw an article saying rugby union had been granted exemption from the furlough issue

Not so much an exemption as clarification. It seems any employee can undertake training in the core business of their employer, so long as the employer is not making an income directly from it. So, all RL players could be training now, BUT how that would fit with employed coaches, physio etc. I am not sure.

IF the chairmen wanted it, it would be happening, it really does seem to me they don't want behind closed doors games if they can be avoided.

I didn’t see earlier discussions Armavinit, and what I’ve read, perhaps I’m wrong, but it actually intimates the furlough scheme will end on the resumption of “training” which you can imagine if correct will tempt cash starved clubs not to prepare till the last possible pay day.

I don't understand why chairman wouldn't want the games behind closed doors if there's a financial compensation fund for for lost revenue due to games being played behind closed doors, if that's the case clubs won't lose income as they can claim all matchday income back.

Let's face it they cannot be avoided, I'd say sky's premiership schedule is delaying superleague, so when the footballs close to being done, rugby will start gearing up for a start, mark my words. And then itl be behind closed doors until the government deem it safe.

Would the "financial compensation fund for for lost revenue" cover the potential compensation cost to pass holders + the loss of walk up revenue?

I'm presuming they may go on past attendances or an average of past attendances of the specific team were playing then reimburse ticket sales for that, something similar, that's me guessing , I'm not sure of the finer details but obviously FC will be compensated.

The walk up revenue could be covered and improved upon In my opinion by making every game pay per view charge say £8 to watch each game via Sky match select, 20,000 viewers should easy be doable sat in the comfort of your sports starved home, that'd be £160k per home game plus financial compensation recieved from the RFL

Remains to be seen how itl function though

How much compensation do pass holders want?

Would you be happy potentially getting pay per view games free as well as discounts on future shirts or passes?

What about those that already have Sky, and the free PL games being aired etc. Players Union not helping the situation either I hear.

It will be mid August, behind closed doors for the rest of the season, they surely can't let stadiums be opened until a vaccine, not if they have any sense.

I already have sky but don't have the option to watch every FC game, there's already an agreement for a televised schedule stick to that, then make every other game pay per view, that way clubs honour the broadcasting agreement as well as make extra money from pay per view.

If it is the £16m will be used.

As has been said in the other thread, the £16m is for the whole sport, not just SL, it isn't to make up revenue above and beyond keeping the business afloat, and it has to be paid back.

Yes, I’ve just seen the article and as you say HMRC have stated furlough ends when players report back for training. HDM did carry a story stating Union had been given dispensation.

[url=https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/03/hmrc-says-premiership-ineligible-for-furlough-when-contact-drills-resumeGuardian article that states as you say...[/url

[url=https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/furlough-scheme-super-league-training-4176147Original HDM article[/url

[url=https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/super-league-clubs-training-furlough-4191779Clarification from HDM (and that they nicked the original from The Daily Mail)[/url

so, basically the observation from RnR about waiting u til the last minute to resume training hangs true...(for today, anyway, seems everything changes every hour!)

Are you saying that vaccination will be compulsory?

My logic is that money dictates
Sky broadcasting deals need honouring, premiership football is way more of a priority than super league due to viewing figures, sponsorships etc

There's absolutely no room for superleague slots amongst the premiership schedule, so we l have to wait. Best case scenario is due to us waiting till August the number of cases drops off a cliff and the virus weakens significantly possibly possibly (don't have a fanny fit) allowing fans back into stadiums, very optimistic I can't see it personally but who know.

If fans are allowed back in stadiums before the end of the year Pearson will see it as a result.

How many deaths where they in Hull on each of the last seven days?

Could you list the deaths by each day starting with last Friday?

genuinely intrigued, il be suprised if you post the facts

I'm guessing you've deleted your post IR80

I did indeed, I figured you didn't need any more rope.

I wasn't aware Coronavirus sat there with a map, saying "well, that's a HU postcode, not allowed to infect anyone in there"...

holy 541t, the facts just called...
Positive tests down

Based on last week's ONS estimate of 8,000 daily infections, some scientists advising the government warned against relaxing lockdown measures too quickly.

They said waiting until cases fell further would make the virus easier to control, and give test and trace programmes more chance of succeeding.

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On the basis of this study, "the number of people in England testing positive has decreased in recent weeks", the ONS says.

"The rate of infection continues to decline and is half what it was two weeks ago," says Prof Keith Neal, emeritus professor of the epidemiology of infectious diseases, at the University of Nottingham.

"This is highly compatible with the fall in diagnosed cases. The contact tracing service has more than enough staff to cope with the current level of infection.

"The main problem is people not getting tested for COVID-19 when they have symptoms," he said.

NOT SOME BLOKE ON TWITTER

So can you list the deaths per day for the last week in Hull please?

I didn't think you would , confirmed my thoughts

The funny thing is at no point have I said let's fill the stadium

I stated best case scenario the cases fall off a cliff, and some people are allowed into the stadium.

You've turned that into me personally rounding people up to go die.

You've got serious issues pal, I suggest you go seek help

No issues here, we are possibly misunderstanding oneanother.

Yes, we should be playing behind closed doors, as soon as possible, with nobody other than necessary individuals in the ground. The loan scheme is not intended to recompense for lost match day income, it is meant to keep the game afloat. The numbers are reducing, but by no means are they falling off a cliff. Covid-19 deaths may be low in Hull, but they are still at an average of 8% of the daily "new" cases diagnosed, UK wide; many (a good 70%) are diagnosed as "with" Covid-19, not "of".
You never used the term "best case scenario" so far as I saw/read. Either way, if you took offense and my comments personally then I apologise, my point remains, SL should not be played in front of crowds until the R rate is less than 0.01%, even then, a big proportion of people will stay away.

Looks like The premiership is looking at starting next season on the 12th September, with Man Utd looking at letting fans back in mid September.

Im surprised they arent putting on Catalans - Toronto on first, they arent affected by the furlough pay issue and Catalans are 2 games behind and Toronto one game behind. Also a good one for SKY with Sonny Bill up against Folau. Stick it on in London right under the media noses!