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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Now, what's that saying I am thinking of ?
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His head had completely gone and should have been brought off , Chester is to blame imo . Dixon would have been subbed/replaced on almost every other sport by his coach
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"His head had completely gone and should have been brought off , Chester is to blame imo . Dixon would have been subbed/replaced on almost every other sport by his coach'"
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Bloody southerner lol.
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Please don't misunderstand me. I think that Kieran Dixon is a nice lad. He is also a very fast runner. But he finds it difficult to tackle -- which was a glaring weakness when played for London Broncos -- and he has shown a bit of inconsistency under the high ball, being especially awful on the biggest stage of all. His antics, in not actually challenging the high ball, on the occasion when Thomas Briscoe then ran 90 metres to score, would have been comical had they not been so tragic in their consequences. It was unfortunate that after his mistake Dixon did not chase Briscoe, when the much slower winger Joshua Mantellato did unsuccessfully, and given that Kenneth Sio also raced from the other side of the field and tackled Briscoe, but just not in time to stop the try.
On other occasions Dixon has looked good running with ball in hand. But I think that his defensive weaknesses outweigh his talents, and therefore I feel that he is just not cut out for big time rugby league.
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The lad just had a mare, and picked a bad day for it. Get over yourself FFS.
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Absolutely right Ferocious - the lad has a lot of potential but had a bad day but in his defence he still looked the only one other than a subdued Kelly likely to break the Leeds defence
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I thought Dixon played pretty well in the 1st half, obviously had a nightmare 2nd half, but then so did the rest of the team.
He's worth sticking with IMO.
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Quote ="Him"I do feel a bit harsh having a go at Dixon, but I don't think his performance was anywhere near good enough for a full time pro player.
Whilst I agree with the posters complaining of poor skills but I think the major factor in his poor performance was his attitude.
He didn't seem properly focussed on what needed to be done in that game. I noticed that when the TV coverage went to the KR dressing room pre-match that he was writing something on the tape around his wrist. Now either he needs help determining his right hand from his left or he was writing a message/name on there to hold up to the camera when he'd scored a try. I know it's only a minor thing but I really don't think that's anything like the right mentality for a huge game like that.
Then add in his lack of support runs and not timing properly the few support runs he did make and of course the far too many knock ons and, in my incredibly inexpert opinion, I reckon he was in very much the wrong frame of mind. In complete contrast to the Leeds players.
Now Dixon obviously wasn't alone in this in the KR team. But I think it was most obvious from Dixon. As Jon Wilkin said on the TV coverage, KR have to change that kind of mentality to a more professional one and that comes from the very top of the club all the way through it. Things like the 10-5 bar might be a good place to start. Hopefully Jamie Peacock will help in this regard, but the club management have to embrace and implement it in all aspects of the club.'"
The writing on tape thing isn't necessarily a sign of bad attitude. Some players write family members on their wrist, a reminder of who they're doing it for. Others write things they need to focus on more. Matt Moltzen at Penrith writes "Talk" and "Speed" on his wrists apparently, while Soward writes “Don’t carry your divots”. This is worth a read for further examples: www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all- ... i-hard-men
I think Dixon is a player with a load of potential, and I think under the right coach he could be a very good player. But I also think he comes across on the pitch as a mentally weak player. He has games where he makes no errors, but then if he makes one, he's got a fair chance of making a couple more as his head goes down. This year he made 6 knock ons in a match against Salford, 3 errors on two occasions, and 2 errors on six occasions. Yet only in 3 matches has he made 1 error, and 5 matches he has made no errors at all in. This (IMO) mental weakness is obviously something that's very difficult to reconcile with playing fullback, as it is a lot easier to hide after an error on the wing than it is at fullback. |
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Quote ="Him"I do feel a bit harsh having a go at Dixon, but I don't think his performance was anywhere near good enough for a full time pro player.
Whilst I agree with the posters complaining of poor skills but I think the major factor in his poor performance was his attitude.
He didn't seem properly focussed on what needed to be done in that game. I noticed that when the TV coverage went to the KR dressing room pre-match that he was writing something on the tape around his wrist. Now either he needs help determining his right hand from his left or he was writing a message/name on there to hold up to the camera when he'd scored a try. I know it's only a minor thing but I really don't think that's anything like the right mentality for a huge game like that.
Then add in his lack of support runs and not timing properly the few support runs he did make and of course the far too many knock ons and, in my incredibly inexpert opinion, I reckon he was in very much the wrong frame of mind. In complete contrast to the Leeds players.
Now Dixon obviously wasn't alone in this in the KR team. But I think it was most obvious from Dixon. As Jon Wilkin said on the TV coverage, KR have to change that kind of mentality to a more professional one and that comes from the very top of the club all the way through it. Things like the 10-5 bar might be a good place to start. Hopefully Jamie Peacock will help in this regard, but the club management have to embrace and implement it in all aspects of the club.'"
The writing on tape thing isn't necessarily a sign of bad attitude. Some players write family members on their wrist, a reminder of who they're doing it for. Others write things they need to focus on more. Matt Moltzen at Penrith writes "Talk" and "Speed" on his wrists apparently, while Soward writes “Don’t carry your divots”. This is worth a read for further examples: www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all- ... i-hard-men
I think Dixon is a player with a load of potential, and I think under the right coach he could be a very good player. But I also think he comes across on the pitch as a mentally weak player. He has games where he makes no errors, but then if he makes one, he's got a fair chance of making a couple more as his head goes down. This year he made 6 knock ons in a match against Salford, 3 errors on two occasions, and 2 errors on six occasions. Yet only in 3 matches has he made 1 error, and 5 matches he has made no errors at all in. This (IMO) mental weakness is obviously something that's very difficult to reconcile with playing fullback, as it is a lot easier to hide after an error on the wing than it is at fullback. | |
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I think Dixon is a player with a load of potential, and I think under the right coach he could be a very good player. But I also think he comes across on the pitch as a mentally weak player. He has games where he makes no errors, but then if he makes one, he's got a fair chance of making a couple more as his head goes down. This year he made 6 knock ons in a match against Salford, 3 errors on two occasions, and 2 errors on six occasions. Yet only in 3 matches has he made 1 error, and 5 matches he has made no errors at all in. This (IMO) mental weakness is obviously something that's very difficult to reconcile with playing fullback, as it is a lot easier to hide after an error on the wing than it is at fullback.'"
Agree with all that. And it is more difficult at full back where you're more exposed than virtually any other position and you often only have limited but important activities. A second rower can just get their head down and tackle anything that moves.
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After such a visibly catastrophic performance the kid needs his fans to rally around him.
Tough enough for him to get through this without the usual knee-jerk brigade dumping on him.
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Dixon does that every single time I've seen him. I think the errors in his game will never be coached out. Like Eden and Caro.
Chesters desperation to have his best player out there showed. Kelly was nowhere near fit or injury-free. Arrogance.'"
The only thing this tells me is that you don't know what arrogance means. |
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| Quote ="Him"Agree with all that. And it is more difficult at full back where you're more exposed than virtually any other position and you often only have limited but important activities. A second rower can just get their head down and tackle anything that moves.
It's possibly where he needed a bit more help from his wingers to take over for a few sets and help ease him back in to the game.'"
The problem with his wingers taking over, and I say this as someone who has played fullback for the last 8 years, is that as soon as you let your wingers take over, you are telling everything your head has gone. It's one thing to make errors and have people suspect your confidence has gone, but hiding on the wing for a couple of sets is much worse than that, even if only for kick returns. It would just come across as "I don't want to be on this pitch anymore" IMO. |
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What they could do on high kicks is run interference and risk penalties, but at least give him a shot at catching the ball. Similarly the wingers could make sure they were in support when fielding long kicks to take a pass and make the run. Its still hiding him a bit, but better than just leaving him to it.
FWIW my main criticism of him is around the collision - he really doesn't look up for it sometimes. Given the game he plays, he really needs to get over that issue. If he can't he'll never be better than he is now.
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I'm surprised no one has said he looks like kevin penny, in his first stint.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"What they could do on high kicks is run interference and risk penalties, but at least give him a shot at catching the ball. Similarly the wingers could make sure they were in support when fielding long kicks to take a pass and make the run. Its still hiding him a bit, but better than just leaving him to it.
FWIW my main criticism of him is around the collision - he really doesn't look up for it sometimes. Given the game he plays, he really needs to get over that issue. If he can't he'll never be better than he is now.'"
Yep that's what I meant rather than him moving to the wing. Both wingers needed to get back and be close alongside and protect him as he goes up for the ball and take the pass for the next run in.
You can see both Hall and Briscoe do this for Hardaker when he looks a bit knackered or has taken a knock. Without taking anything away from Hardakers superb performances this season, he's been helped by having 2 wingers who always offer themselves as support. |
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For anyone that missed his performance...
[urlhttps://youtu.be/ewta3gI6bBo[/url
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"For anyone that missed his performance...
[urlhttps://youtu.be/ewta3gI6bBo[/url'"
poor bugger 
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"For anyone that missed his performance...
[urlhttps://youtu.be/ewta3gI6bBo[/url'"
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| Quote ="SirStan"The only thing this tells me is that you don't know what arrogance means.'"
Watch Chesters pre-match interview. "Albert was always playing, he's fully fit, got over his injury. Never a doubt".
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"For anyone that missed his performance...
[urlhttps://youtu.be/ewta3gI6bBo[/url'"
That was hilarious. I loved the music.
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Maybe Briscoe called and conned Dixon into thinking he was a KR player. It's the only explanation I can come up with!
Shame, remember watching him as a kid at Aldershot for Broncos/Quins kids along with a couple of others, parents and a dog!
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| Quote ="Paddock Punter"Maybe Briscoe called and conned Dixon into thinking he was a KR player. It's the only explanation I can come up with!
Shame, remember watching him as a kid at Aldershot for Broncos/Quins kids along with a couple of others, parents and a dog!'"
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| Quote ="GansonTheClown"1/2 of them weren't errors.'"
Who said they were all errors?
I just thought it was funny that he was in the shot of every try! Sometimes they were just two-on-ones, but others were just awful positioning for a full back. And he got boomed a couple of times too.
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Enough is enough it's time to give the lad a break I hope he plays Sunday and we should get behind him and the team
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