Yes. The IRB has no interest in League. In Australia, the only country where League is by far the stronger code, the IRB are busy trying to attract more players and fans by getting a 5th Super Rugby

franchise in place. This is not part of some final solution, but instead a simple business strategy....they want to get a bigger share of the money that is available from Sly Sports (Fox). In the rest of the world, where Union is the stronger code, they have no fear of League.....to be honest, I doubt they give it a second thought. The UK, the second strongest League country is dominated by soccer...and always will be. Union, when they won the RUWC targeted soccer fans who had become disenchanted with the overpaid and overcharging, together with the complete wall to wall media domination of the sport. League doesn't even register on the RFU's radar......why should it? London/Quins haven't exactly stolen a march on nicking union fans from their multi-coloured landlords.....league haven't pinched a decent union player since Jonnathon Davies and if Chris Ashton is the answer for the England Union team, I say it must have been a stupid question in the first place.

So, next up are the other 5 nations in the 6 nations.......and apart from South West France and wrexham there is no other major Rugby League activity to mention........ Ireland, Scotland, Wales, France and Italy's Unions have no reason to fear League.......why would they? South Africa......no league. Union Sevens...an olympic sport.......the RU world cup (regardless of the accusations that will come back at me) registered as a major international TV event.....yeah...I am sure the old farts in Dublin are really bricking it over League



Your insecurities are based on the behaviour of the Vichy French, their use of power to destroy League during the occupation of Southern France and a few other historic events. It is people like you, who live in the past, that have presided over league for the last 20 years....whilst the elitest, old school tie networking and boring sport of Rugby Union has turned professional and turned a profit on the international stage........if you keep looking over your shoulder, you will eventually walk over a cliff......
I would estimate that in 1980 there would have been more replica CLUB League shirts in wardrobes along the M62 than replica England Union Shirts in the whole country..........in 2010, I would estimate that there are more replica England INTERNATIONAL Union shirts in wardrobes in the UK than any and every type of League shirt combined.......that's the type of progress Union has made.....and it was driven with 1 motive.....Money.

The IRB, RFU, ARFU, NZRFU etc...are all driven by the same thing League is......cash. There is no hiddedn or open agenda to destroy league.......



Neither.....but as usual, the level of insults is as cutting edge as your argument.

does anybody actually read this guys posts?

only people who wish to engage in a balanced debate......others just call me names or try to look clever (and fail). Your contribution to these boards is to post links to an Australian Rag........try to back up other posters theories with theories of your own and generally behave like a child when anyone disagrees with you.
I just responded to a question as to why the IRB are not trying to kill off league....your response to that was typical. It had no counter argument, nothing new, nothing of any interest and was generally a waste of your and my time.

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I can't speak for the Southern Hemisphere, but I suspect gutterfax makes some good points about RU's "agenda" in Europe.

RL is only strong in a small area of Northern England, elsewhere RU is a far more popular game, and I suspect that the RFU don't perceive it as a threat/challenger for the sporting pound. RU is trying to increase its market share by chipping away at the football monopoly.

If the RFU did have an agenda against RL, I suspect they don't anymore becuase it's job done........RL is a minority, regional sport in Europe.

I suspect it is different in Australia where RL and AFL battle for the no.1 spot

did your wife help you write that post

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Kettle & pot!!!

What like yours - both are taken with the same level of gravitas i.e none

you just read my post dunce

an intelligent union troll, now that would be a nice challenge

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With regards the Central Coast bid. It goes in on 31st March 2011.

they are in

gallop has told them what criteria they need to satisfy beforehand ie mainly sponsors

welcome back a foundation team

Can't be helped until someone here cleans house and returns it to sensible posters........but while you're still posting, you are (and your links to the rag you love) are hard to avoid


Whilst I am not a union troll, or any other form of sub-bridge dweller, I did offer a balanced argument to the debate on your immaginary IRB final solution.....all you add is <s>...., <s>...., <s>.... or

........repeatedly. Very intelligent..........not!
You crims are so far up your own ar5es at times.......AFL are your biggest concern, but because Union have less players and Fans (BUT SHED LOADS MORE CASH)....you think you're picking on the small kid......carry on, while AFL & Soccer continue to chip away..........but whn it all goes wrong, I am sure you will refer back to Murdoch and Packer having a pi55ing competition (which resulted in far better wages for todays players) or Vichy France........which resulted in a nation having to rebuild its league infastructure....after it buried its dead, rebuilt its schools etc......get a grip dally....no doubt you love the game, but your constant obsession with union lets you down nearly every time

brain fart

I love it.....again, a reasoned argument results in your standard response. I am sure if another of your mates (the ones left with posting rights) came and backed you up, 3 pages of <s>

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would have been added....but as you are on your own.....brain fart is all you can come up with. Does this response mean that the AFL aren't more of a threat to League than Union....or are you admitting I am correct? Does the continued growth of soccer not worry league? It should IMO.......less insurance/injury worries for mums and dads to worry about....but enough reasoned debate.....I am looking forward to your next grown up response.

The next time you construct a coherent sentence I will take it seriously - but we both know that isn't going to happen anytime soon?

You need to get a life, get a job and start interacting with something/somebody other than your right hand?

High quality sentence construction!!!

5 union trolls, put them together and you still cant get an intelligent argument.

little surprise, after all, they watch union for fun

How would you know? you have yet to contribute an intelligent comment to any arguement - 90% of your post involve copying articles by people who are able to construct coherent sentences.

Dally why do you keep writing <s> after virtually every post?

When will you be celebrating your 12th birthday?

barry when are you going to stop pretending to be australian?

I guess you'd have lots of friends eh, you're an idiot plain and simple.

You go on about debate, but all you do in this part of the forum is run everything RL down and talk your union/Afl trying to stir people up so they respond.

What is it guttergas, is your sole purpose in posting here to p1ss everybody off until they abuse you so they get banned?

Is that what you want you pathetic little merkin?

Do you want every aussie here to be banned so you can gloat about it, would that make you feel like a man?

How about talking about the thread title just for once, or is that too @#$%^%$# hard for an intellectual giant like you?

Every thread that certain posters start or post in, you decide to come in and belittle said posters and turn it into one of your pathetic threads that ends up going no where.

I think we know who the troll is.

You go on and on and on and on about so called reasoned arguments, well where the hell are yours?

Everytime there is a thread about RL and expansion, you bring other sports into it.

WTF do other sports have to do with what RL does?

And if you don't know already gimp, why would RL give a fat lady's $%#@ in Australia about said other sports when RL clearly (for those with any knowledge of Australian sports) is a very powerful organisation itself?

I love my quote, it's just a pity that I can't fit too much more in because quite frankly know all, you deliver some rip snorters every day.

So instead of talking about AFL, Union and Soccer participation along with what you think these Aussie kids mums and dads think, how about showing everyone your knowledge on Australian RL?

Do you have any?

Living in NZ, do you actually know anything about the Sport of Rugby League out here in Australia?

Go on sporting God, put up or shut up.




Oh ffs, where there's one there's the other, two mental pygmies rolled into one.

so says Dally the pom who didnt even know where the Blue Mountains were

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bazza whats the name of the bridge out of cronulla?

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Why don't you google it Dally?

You are good at that

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Classic response.....Dally would be proud


Wrong. I respond to you and your cronies jumping on anyone who dares say that League isn't what God Created on the 7th day.....and all other codes are rubbish.


In a fair few years on these boards, I have had 1 peice of abuse from UK posters (and to be fair, I was pretty harsh on the club I support...........and did rattle a few cages and therefore, accepted it).....but on these boards, populated by fewer and fewer posters due to the inane cut and paste activity of some and the sheer hatred spouted by others, I have regularly received abuse.......but no, it is not why I come on here. I return from time to time to see if there is any reasoned debate going on......there isn't.



QED

......Don't actually want anyone to be banned......just a reasoned argument...which by the way....we still haven't got to in this post of yours.......

......I did, but it was derailed again by the self proclaimed union troll hunters



again, not true, but if it makes you feel better, carry on saying it.

.......who's we? You and CJ and Dally.......FFS, one cuts and pastes all his posts, the other two go apopleptic (sic) id anyone mentions another code...even in passing. If you're WE, then I suggest the WE knows SFA other than how to try to look clever, but failing spectacularly.......


I recently gave the opinion that the IRB didn't have a hidden agenda to ruin league and that the AFL and soccer should be your main concern in Australia......the only reasoned debate I have had back is inane posts of "Brain Fart" <S> and

.......

....untrue. From page 4 of this thread...
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Quote ="eels fan"What's Union got to do with this thread anyway?'"

It's like shooting fish in a barrel......but in case you couldn't find them (previous page BTW)....

Quote ="cjhatesunion"Bo11ocks,the IRB have had an hidden agenda for years and that is to get rid or completely take over RL.'"

Quote ="dally messenger"yeah the two game co existed happily in france'"

Bazza brought up Union...these two nibbled on the bait and here we are...with you trying to be clever and again, failing.[/size

....not a lot other than League and other sports are fighting over the same disposable income..........the Australian Public may be having a good time at the moment, but there is still a limit on how much cash is available to the sports market.


They probably don't, but you three do.......every time a player announces he i staying in League he gets a big well done....but when one leaves, he is a traitor, scum, a turn coat, scab and he should be hung......get over yourself.

....I am sure you know what this part of your reasoned debate actually means.........


Not as much as you, but I do also look at the global stats for all sports as part of my job. I don't look at just Ireland, the UK, New Zealand (all places I have lived and worked) but also the rest of the planet. You on the other hand are as insular as they come....every post you make is about how Australia leads the way.......well, it probably does....in, er...Australia


Yes......it's a code of football that sits behing AFL in the popularity stakes and currently has a lower pay deal than the AFL. Whilst there is a massive infastructure in place, per head per capita, Union gets more TV money due to the involvement of the South African and NZ super teams and the A-League is doing OK too. League has been tarred with the working class brush for many years and if it wasn't for Rupert Murdoch and the money the clubs glean from Gambling Machines.......then it would be in really big trouble. Your teams break the cap on a regular basis and you need 2 refs to ensure that your star players abide by the rules of the game.
If by know anything about the game of RL in Aus, you are referring to historical events like the SL war, then no, I only have a passing understanding of what went on before most of the current players were born, but I am reading up on it. What I do know is that you and your cronies have still to come back with a reasoned debate....which is probably why there are less posters on here than on the London Skolars board.......you have driven them all away.

....again, WHAT? I have never claimed to be a sporting God......why would I? Because I have a different opinion than yours, you are now trying to make it look like I am pushing my thoughts as fact......I am not. I have never claimed to have the correct answers....sometimes, there isn't a corrct answer. All I do is try to debate the threats currently faced by League globally........and alas, these would include Soccer and Union and particularly AFL in your small corner of the world.....in my opinion that is.




So, another poster dares disagree with you or won't bow to your playground bully tactics.......so you call them names too......I suggest you re-read your post....and highlight the reasoned debate parts...........

I have no interest in getting into another slagging match with you. I have posted for years and Like my posting rights as they are....but if you are looking to achieve martyr status....carry on with the name calling. Personally, I'd prefer a reasoned debate myself....

Gutterfax,do you not seriously think that the IRB are after getting rid of RL.They have been trying for over a hundred years.