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| Quote ="the machine 87"not to turn this into a cas v wakey argument but Justin carney got banned for 3 matches(yes his record this season didn't help) for arguably a softer challenge '"
Whether a challenge is hard or soft is not the basis for whether it is legal or illegal. You and the Sky commentators should bear that in mind.
For example Stevo in commentary seemed to react to another challenge by Poore on Ellis where it was a good hard shot but perfectly legal imo, but of course Stevo was shouting for a penalty and bleating how the referee missed it.
There are too many soft penalties given in UK games as it is at the moment but there seems to be more and more dissection of petty incidents looking for reasons to penalise folk, especially on this forum.
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| Quote ="bren2k"As if by magic, an example appears!
FYI - the two challenges were worlds apart; the Poore/Aiton tackle started off messy but fortunately for everyone involved Aiton tidied it up, leaving the Hull player on his back and no worse for wear.'"
so when aiton isn't their next time and he breaks a players neck what will be the excuse to justify it????
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| Quote ="the machine 87"so when aiton isn't their next time and he breaks a players neck what will be the excuse to justify it????'"
give over sill person - RFL no charge
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| Quote ="the machine 87"so when aiton isn't their next time and he breaks a players neck what will be the excuse to justify it????'"
Unless you've perfected that flux capacitor and fitted it to a DeLorean, I fail to see how the disciplinary panel can penalise for offences that haven't yet happened; he was warned to his future conduct - with the current technology available to us, I'm reasonably sure that's as far as they can go.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Isnt that his third for the same issue? How many do you get?
Regardless, I still ask, why dont we consult the VR on decision like this? and really what is the point of 'on report' as anything can be looked at anyway?'"
The point is to make a correct decision with the benefit of hindsight. Job done, anyone who understands the game will tell you it was nothing more than a messy slam tackle - common sense prevails.
You mate want it all ways.
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| Shocking tackle, lifted players legs over the horizontal, only his team mate prevented serious injury. Shocking decision by the disciplinary panel.
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| I bet the wakey fans wouldn't be so defensive if it was a hull player doing the same to one of their players!
it was a dangerous tackle, should've carried atleast a 1 game ban!
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| Quote ="number 6"I bet the wakey fans wouldn't be so defensive if it was a hull player doing the same to one of their players!
it was a dangerous tackle, should've carried atleast a 1 game ban!'"
To be honest I’d expected a match, maybe a couple due to previous indiscretions, clumsy yes, malicious no. Lauitiiti copped a worse one last week but I didn’t see Agar bleating to the press about it & there wasn’t a six page thread about it on the V.T.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I fear you may have been a little disappointed in what the VR would have done in that situation, Cudjoe was warned by the Ref for kneeing Mcguire in the head (hence Mcguire’s reaction) and it is likely that he rather than Mcguire would have been the one punished by the VR. However that incident shouldn’t have been put on report. There was no need, all incidents of striking will be reviewed by the RFL anyway and the Ref clearly saw the incident (spoke to Cudjoe and Mcguire) so was very well in a position to make a decision.
Im not even necessarily arguing Poore had to be sent off, my argument is just if the referee sees an incident he should deal with it there and then, if he doesn’t see it well enough there is a trained referee with access to multiple angles and slo-motion who should see it well enough, he should deal with it. If he can’t for whatever reason (borderline, poor/obstructed view) then fine, leaving for the panel, but if an incident can be dealt with on the field it should.'"
So again, just like the Poore incident with Farrell where Poore was kneed in head and then retaliated.
Bearing in mind how much time you spend on here analyzing stuff, you still are clueless aren't you?
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| Quote ="Fordy"So again, just like the Poore incident with Farrell where Poore was kneed in head and then retaliated.
Bearing in mind how much time you spend on here analyzing stuff, you still are clueless aren't you?'"
That's nice, I'm not sure what that has to do with, but its nice of you to bring it up?
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| Quote ="Fordy"That'll be the disciplinary panel that said
So I think you'll find that in this case Vasty is actually right.
They admitted he had been provoked and that basically he was punished for having a good punch on him.
Farrell, although he was the instigator got off because he couldn't punch his way out of a wet paper bag. HTH'"
You find me anywhere in that disciplinary report which says that Farrell punched Poore, which is what Vasty asserted. Crack on.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"You find me anywhere in that disciplinary report which says that Farrell punched Poore, which is what Vasty asserted. Crack on.'"
There are plenty of videos of 'said' incident on a certain website which clearly shows Farrell punch Poore first if you care to look?
Crack on.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Poore
Ultimate whomper 2013'"
Edited for accuracy.
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| Quote ="saintkevin"Shocking tackle, lifted players legs over the horizontal, only his team mate prevented serious injury. Shocking decision by the disciplinary panel.'"
You cant possibly know that.
Way too many different scenarios that [ucould[/u have occurred had Aiton not been there.
I would say there would be a strong possibilty that had Aiton not been there,Poore wouldnt have even gone for the legs and there would have been no dangerous tackle.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"Poore
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Rich coming from you. Really.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Rich coming from you. Really.'"
You have me confused with Vastman
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"You have me confused with Vastman'"
Nah. Vastman isn't a ginger turd disliked by most of his fellow supporters.
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| Ha ha, the gang gathers quickly doesn't it............
Like deliverance
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Nah. Vastman isn't a ginger turd disliked by most of his fellow supporters.'"
Bless, your that significant I don't even know who you are
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"icon_lol.gif
Bless, your that significant I don't even know who you are
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Indeed. Being insignificant to you is the only way to be.
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| Quote ="number 6"I bet the wakey fans wouldn't be so defensive if it was a hull player doing the same to one of their players!
it was a dangerous tackle, should've carried atleast a 1 game ban!'"
If it'd have happened the other way I'd have expected a penalty at most. Only if he had been dropped on his head would I have expected a more serious outcome.
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| Quote ="number 6"I bet the wakey fans wouldn't be so defensive if it was a hull player doing the same to one of their players!
it was a dangerous tackle, should've carried atleast a 1 game ban!'"
No it wasn't hence the verdict - why exactly would the RFL show Poore or Waker any favours - never happened before.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Nah. Vastman isn't a ginger turd disliked by most of his fellow supporters.'"
Don't bother you're dealing with Smokies less able brother so you can only imagine just how simple he actually is. Prepare yourself for a series of predictable mind games where it the end he will unilaterally claim he owns you or some such nonsense - all very sad.
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