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| Quote ="silver2"The thing I'm unhappy about is the reluctance of the Royal Family to attend any major RL event whereas they always appear to have time to attend RU games. If it turns out that they prefer the other game then fair enough but if that is the case why did the Queen and then Harry accept the role of Patron?'"
He didn't appear at the Lions games even though he was Down Under at the time. Instead he flew back to the UK to be at an event that promoted kids playing RL.
He's the patron of MANY things and supports MANY others. You might like to think he just sits at home in his England RU pj's watching the DVD of the 2003 RU WC final but reality is he's a seriously busy guy. For some ridiculous reason some RL fans think he should make RL his top priority of all the things he supports.
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| And if he had rocked up to the England games, I would give it 5 posts until we saw the cries of him freeloading
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| England should make Jerusalem their national anthem, especially the RL team, Jerusalem is a genuinely inspiring song about striving to be better, our current national anthem is pledging allegiance to the the most privileged woman of the past century
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| Putting all personal opinions on the monarch aside, GSTQ is a commonwealth anthem not an English one. My opinion has always been that Jerusalem should be our anthem. As a very proud Englishman, it’s always been upsetting for me that we don’t have a national anthem specific to England. I don’t identify myself as being British either though, I’m English. Would a Scotsman or Welshman, if asked, say they are British? Would they boll0x, so why do English have to say they are British?! We need an English anthem!
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| Just play Vindaloo. Job done.
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| Quote ="silver2"The thing I'm unhappy about is the reluctance of the Royal Family to attend any major RL event whereas they always appear to have time to attend RU games. If it turns out that they prefer the other game then fair enough but if that is the case why did the Queen and then Harry accept the role of Patron?'"
as chippiness goes, you are coming across as the Harry Ramsdens of RL fans.....he went to Eton......e's a soldier who defends his country, he has admitted to having counselling to deal with his demons...... he likes Rugby Union.....he attends RL events as part of his role in RL......mbve along, there's little here to see other than potato peelings from Mr Chippy!
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| Quote ="silver2"If it turns out that they prefer the other game then fair enough but if that is the case why did the Queen and then Harry accept the role of Patron?'"
They do a lot of work for charidee mate.
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| Back on topic, I would be happy to hear "I vow to thee my country", as a sporting anthem. Just the first verse.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"as chippiness goes, you are coming across as the Harry Ramsdens of RL fans.....he went to Eton......e's a soldier who defends his country, he has admitted to having counselling to deal with his demons...... he likes Rugby Union.....he attends RL events as part of his role in RL......mbve along, there's little here to see other than potato peelings from Mr Chippy!'"
Dear God!!
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| It's my national anthem.
Jerusalem is a great song but isn't my national anthem.
I love the royal family especially the grandsons and their involvement in the military and emergency services is inspirational.
The fact that they are involved with other sports has no relevance to us.
I wonder when we last asked them to be involved in a Wembley? I should think other spots plan their involvement 10 years ahead.
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| Theme tune to The Archers please.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Theme tune to The Archers please.'"
Ah yes, Billy Connolly at his finest
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| Quote ="silver2"Dear God!!'"
Well.....you were being a tad trite.
He is (as was his gran) the Patron of our sport and has already attended RL events....he flew back from Australia to attend one such RL event when it would have been easier to hop over to NZ to catch a Lions test.......he obviously has other engagements and flying half way around the world to attend a poorly attended tournament isn't a priority....but you use his absence as an excuse to bash the royal family...as I said, you came across as very chippy!
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| Quote ="PopTart"It's my national anthem.
Jerusalem is a great song but isn't my national anthem.
I love the royal family especially the grandsons and their involvement in the military and emergency services is inspirational.
The fact that they are involved with other sports has no relevance to us.
I wonder when we last asked them to be involved in a Wembley? I should think other spots plan their involvement 10 years ahead.'"
I cannot stand the parasites and I do not care that they do what any number of other people do for a lot less adulation. So what if a prince is in the armed forces? Does that make them worth more than all our other forces personel? Try being shot at for a few years and knowing that when you leave you still have to make a living. As for being inspirational the monarchy are paid increasingly well, with full job security and the only qualification in their part is a dodgy set of unwritten rules on which we have no say. They have no divine right to rule. They are the relatives of the usurpers who nicked the throne from other usurpers. If we had a coup you could go misty eyed over the next set of sock puppets. Long live the revolution.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Well.....you were being a tad trite.
He is (as was his gran) the Patron of our sport and has already attended RL events....he flew back from Australia to attend one such RL event when it would have been easier to hop over to NZ to catch a Lions test.......he obviously has other engagements and flying half way around the world to attend a poorly attended tournament isn't a priority....but you use his absence as an excuse to bash the royal family...as I said, you came across as very chippy!'"
Ok, I accept your apology.
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| Quote ="Levrier"They have no divine right to rule. They are the relatives of the usurpers who nicked the throne from other usurpers.'"
I couldn't agree more; the adulation of these people who are accidentally afforded elevated status simply by virtue of being born, is cringeworthy. They're an anachronism and should be consigned to the history books.
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| By the same standard, if your parents worked all their lives and bought a nice house....then left it to you in their will......the revolution should take that off you.
That ok too?
I like them and their roles. They are a part of our history and should be celebrated. Not adored as people but celebrated in the role they play.
I would reduce the civil list to just the straight line on the family tree from the Queen though. No need to pay the others.
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| Quote ="Levrier"I cannot stand the parasites and I do not care that they do what any number of other people do for a lot less adulation. So what if a prince is in the armed forces? Does that make them worth more than all our other forces personel? Try being shot at for a few years and knowing that when you leave you still have to make a living. As for being inspirational the monarchy are paid increasingly well, with full job security and the only qualification in their part is a dodgy set of unwritten rules on which we have no say. They have no divine right to rule. They are the relatives of the usurpers who nicked the throne from other usurpers. If we had a coup you could go misty eyed over the next set of sock puppets. Long live the revolution.'"
Spot on there.
Just to add the even greater irony that given his rather dubious paternity, Prince Harry's sole "qualification" for his role is questionable.
As for an anthem GSTQ is hardly inspirational as well as not being England specific (though the Welsh & Scots seem to think so when they boo it). We don't have the get out like the haka that the Kiwis can use to overcome a dull national anthem, so new tune please.
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| Quote ="PopTart"By the same standard, if your parents worked all their lives and bought a nice house....then left it to you in their will......the revolution should take that off you.
That ok too?
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You miss the point. It would be more akin to your parents living on the dole for their whole lives and then being handed the proceeds of a robbery which they then passed on to you. You then claimed that it was the will of God and that it was set in stone.
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| Quote ="silver2"Ok, I accept your apology.'"
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| Quote ="PopTart"
I would reduce the civil list to just the straight line on the family tree from the Queen though. No need to pay the others.'"
So you'd exclude Prince Harry then?
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| God does not exist therefore the anthem should be obsolete
The Royal Family are not important outside bringing in money through tourism to the country anymore therefore the focus of the country's anthem should be on something else
It needs binning and something fresh and new should be brought in
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"England should make Jerusalem their national anthem, especially the RL team, Jerusalem is a genuinely inspiring song about striving to be better, our current national anthem is pledging allegiance to the the most privileged woman of the past century'"
It’s just another load of religious garbage wondering whether people from made up religious stories ever came here and talking about making England like a city in the Middle East.
Jerusalem; a melting pot of religious nutters, different ethnicities bombing each other, extremism and murder through religious and ethnic hatred going back thousands of years. Probably the city with the route cause to most of the world's problems throughout human history. Why do i want that built on England's green and pleasant land?
No thanks! Get that binned off n'all!
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| In the words of Billy Connolly - Replace the national anthem with the theme from The Archers.
All together now!
AhDum de dum de dum dedum
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