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| Quote ="Saddened!"I think the bookies have it right having Tomkins outside the top 15 for MOS betting for next year.'"
I assume then, that you think they have it right having Knowles barely scraping into the top 20 for MOS next year?
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| It will really upset them if you point out that Cust is one of the top contenders for MOS
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| Quote ="Saddened!"That's the Sky TV influence. They hype a player up (Usually because Phil Clarke's brother is their agent) and everyone suddenly regards them as a superstar. Toby King is one that springs to mind. Had a few good games, got built up as the reincarnation of Paul Newlove by Sky, got his new contract and went back to being Mr Average.
Tomkins also had a decent two or three games last year and got hyped up to the nines. He had no impact in multiple games and still got 3 MOS points because the games weren't televised. Lachlan Coote is a better player than Sam Tomkins and unquestionably the best back in Super League (Apart from Jack Welsby). He could win MOS next year at Hull KR as there won't be as much competition for points from his own team.
I think the bookies have it right having Tomkins outside the top 15 for MOS betting for next year.'"
So Coote who is unquestionably the best back apart from Welsby (how does that work)?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"That's the Sky TV influence. They hype a player up (Usually because Phil Clarke's brother is their agent) and everyone suddenly regards them as a superstar. Toby King is one that springs to mind. Had a few good games, got built up as the reincarnation of Paul Newlove by Sky, got his new contract and went back to being Mr Average.
Tomkins also had a decent two or three games last year and got hyped up to the nines. He had no impact in multiple games and still got 3 MOS points because the games weren't televised. Lachlan Coote is a better player than Sam Tomkins and unquestionably the best back in Super League (Apart from Jack Welsby). He could win MOS next year at Hull KR as there won't be as much competition for points from his own team.
I think the bookies have it right having Tomkins outside the top 15 for MOS betting for next year.'"
It has nothing to do with Sky, it is my opinion, as clearly stated. Often, people can watch a sport and enjoy someone’s performance who doesn’t play for their team and award credit where it’s due. It doesn’t happen often, although this is a direct example. I have no prejudice or agenda, I just think that he is the best player in the competition. Coote is a decent player, but is not the best back. Neither is Welsby, or he would have played more. Not to say Welsby might not become the best, but last year, in my opinion, Tomkins was significantly better than both.
Now… Just because I don’t agree with you doesn’t mean that I’m wrong. Pull your head out of your backside and stop acting like a child.
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| Quote ="Jason65"It will really upset them if you point out that Cust is one of the top contenders for MOS'"
Cust is a good shout. Wigan are bang average. There isnt one player in that team that would get anywhere near St Helens team. Even the bottle smasher looks woefully average now he hasnt got Canberras pack around him.
That said. Wigan have always been greater than the sum of their parts and will win a lot of games so Cust will in all likelihood be the one that stands out so will probably get the 3 mos points every week.
Its a flawed system, but it is what it is.
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Cust is a good shout. Wigan are bang average. There isnt one player in that team that would get anywhere near St Helens team. Even the bottle smasher looks woefully average now he hasnt got Canberras pack around him.
That said. Wigan have always been greater than the sum of their parts and will win a lot of games so Cust will in all likelihood be the one that stands out so will probably get the 3 mos points every week.
Its a flawed system, but it is what it is.'"
oh the slightly deranged one strikes again,I hope that Wigans bang average team does not win a trophy next year,you could be on the verge of totally losing what is left of your mind.
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| Quote ="Jason65"oh the slightly deranged one strikes again,I hope that Wigans bang average team does not win a trophy next year,you could be on the verge of totally losing what is left of your mind.'"
Slightly?
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| No one is deranged. Everyone on here is lovely because it is Christmas. Maybe meet between the trenches, have a game of touch and pass and then if you really have to you can recommence hating one another in 2022?
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"No one is deranged. Everyone on here is lovely because it is Christmas. Maybe meet between the trenches, have a game of touch and pass and then if you really have to you can recommence hating one another in 2022?'"
I dont hate anyone,so have a great christmas everyone even the slightly deranged ones
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| Quote ="reffy"Slightly?'"
Fully deranged would mean he/she/it would think stains 1-13 are the best players in superleague and will not admit there maybe other players as good or even better than said 13 ,oh wait a minute you could be right yes fully deranged fits so much better
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| Quote ="Wigan are bang average. There isnt one player in that team that would get anywhere near St Helens team.'"
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"Cust is a good shout. Wigan are bang average. There isnt one player in that team that would get anywhere near St Helens team. Even the bottle smasher looks woefully average now he hasnt got Canberras pack around him.
That said. Wigan have always been greater than the sum of their parts and will win a lot of games so Cust will in all likelihood be the one that stands out so will probably get the 3 mos points every week.
Its a flawed system, but it is what it is.'"
Wigan have been really poor and perhaps not even bang average at times, more or less confirmed by struggling to get only one player in the 2021 Dream Team. I don't recall any player getting to challenge the top tier of the MOS listing either.
When I say not even bang average at times some of the Wigan fans mentioned it on there forum when they failed to score a try for something like 180 mins of rugby league, I think they have a superleague league record of being kept to zero points in quite a lot of games be it the first half or the second half. Adrian Lam obviously taken them backwards in 2021.
Lots of work required by the new coaching staff, Wane will puppeteer some improvement though.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Wigan have been really poor and perhaps not even bang average at times, more or less confirmed by struggling to get only one player in the 2021 Dream Team. I don't recall any player getting to challenge the top tier of the MOS listing either.
When I say not even bang average at times some of the Wigan fans mentioned it on there forum when they failed to score a try for something like 180 mins of rugby league, I think they have a superleague league record of being kept to zero points in quite a lot of games be it the first half or the second half. Adrian Lam obviously taken them backwards in 2021.
Lots of work required by the new coaching staff, Wane will puppeteer some improvement though.'"
Thanks for pointing out all of this myself and other fans hadnt noticed this ,so once again thank you.
I think it was this year Wigan were pretty bad by their standards but previously getting to a grand final and winning the hub cap wasnt too shabby.
Will have to wait for this coming season to pan out everything else is in the past now.
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