There is a Tommy Sale Youth team which is local business funded, Leigh could *if D.B were willing & able* reach out to them & further fund that enterprise to become a full affiliate academy (though I am not sure if politics would get in the way).

London are the best bet if the prerequisite is mediocrity & sub Salford levels of attendance !

SBW, Kallum Watkins and Tom Olbison to Valley Parade or Sydney Roosters? Bradford to go 'up'?

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With £18Million Wayne I would trust you and me would be equally capable of finding a ground, inventing a club (how about Mansfield :lolicon_smile.gif and buying up players to get to Superleague. Once there though it would be a different situation. It already exists. Sherwood Wolf Hunt RLFC

Interesting. Brighter than you come across.

The whole Fev to replace Toronto next season wouldn’t really sit well. They were beaten in the final I get that, but what about the teams that Toronto knocked out along the way ?

To be honest I’m preparing myself for a massive fallout with the English game. TWP do not deserve their status next season in SL. But at the same time I can’t see a team being cherry picked to replace them.

So it’s either run with 11 teams or they retain their place. And I think it will be the latter.

But how will they field a team? Public knowledge know that players haven’t been payed on time and yet to be paid, why would any potential player want to sign for them?

I've always worked on the theory that I can sit at home for nowt, but then again I've never been that unlucky where work wasn't available, if we believe what we are told then all those unlucky players out of work might be that desperate they'll sign for anybody, besides that I'm sure if Twp are in super league or any other league for that matter, they will have had to give assurances to whichever governing body they're linked with.

There is no chance of a club being selected to replace Toronto next season, two divisions with an odd number of teams is a non starter. Toronto will be reinstated with a massive points deduction which will virtually ensure their relegation at the end of the season.

Why it does not matter to Toronto even if they give assurances they gave that when they said they will get Canadaian players and a TV deal did they did they hell one answer dump them now

Thought about this scenario which is a strong possibility. But a total waste of time for everyone involved, 12 points or more of a deduction, I can’t see them bothering to start the season. Unless he throws another 5 million at it which I doubt he will

TWP don't need reinstating, they haven't been kicked out.

Go with the 12, no promotion or relegation for 3 years, expand to 16 teams in 2024, Tolouse, Ottowa, New York and one from Halifax/Bradford/Featherstone, get a long term strategy going. Franchising works if you do it properly and don't skirt around it.

Make a huge bid to get into the CWG as 7's in 2026.

They have effectively kicked themselves out. If they are in Super League next season it will set a precedent that any team marooned at the bottom could withdraw without penalty.

you kidding me new York hasn't got an owner when you people going to learn

awww, you spoilt it, I was hoping Cokey would be first to respond, me being a troll and all.

of course I was joking!

Surely this needs sorting out the sooner the better. Be interesting to see how they handle it.

Cokey knows better.

IF TWP pull out it has to be either Toulouse or London

The last thing SL needs is another crappy little team from Yorkshire

hmmmm

one thing for sure, the RFL/SL have made a complete balls up of the current situation, clusterferk springs to mind!

Purely out of interest IR80 what conditions would you evaluate a club against re obtaining/maintaining a franchise? On the same basis as last time around?

I agree though, if expansion is to ever truly work in our game I can only see it with a good solid franchising model, unfortunately you then take out some of the excitement that a promotion and relegation model brings.

Sadly..Chances are they are doomed..

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Yeah I don’t know which way this will go. But if they remain in SL I feel minimum, a points deduction will be thrown their way. Effectively delaying the inevitable.

As much as my lis of clubs was tongue in cheek, the franchising comment was not. The criteria has to start with a solid, properly financed, business model, development strategies from school initiatives, involvement with local grass routes at all ages, an academy and a first team. Security of tenure on your ground, minimum 20 years from day one, salary cap set as a %ge of income. BUT it will never happen, because that is how a business would run, and sport is not a business in the pure sense.

As you rightly say, that just wouldn't sit right.
As beaten finalists, Fev are next in line.
That Toronto beat other clubs along the way is immaterial, Fev were the next highest rated club in The Championship.

Agreed it would only be fair..

and go down after one season...

It isn’t immaterial one bit. I highly doubt this would be the criteria they would use anyway. They’re the highest ranked club because TWP were the other finalists. Toronto didn’t just beat Featherstone, they took away a teams chances in the semi final too. If you want to go along the lines of saying “the next highest team should take their place”, there’s a lot more to it than that

This isn’t an attack on Fev or the club one bit at all. But throwing them into super league as beaten finalists wouldn’t be the way to go.

Go to 11 teams or pick a team that ticks more criteria than others.

It’s just a total mess with me thinking the likely option is that the RFL will give Toronto their super league place next season. But probably along with that some sort of decent points deduction.