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| Quote ="spegs"If ever there was an example of why people don’t bother on here anymore, the childish banality exhibited in the last 8-10 posts is there for all to see...'"
So you are happy to be accused of putting money before lives, because IR80 did just that.
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"ir80 thinks he owns the board,1,709 posts in less than a year.'"
Now then EY nice to see your still around, hope your in good health in Scotland. Regarding the season starting in early July, I went abroad in early March, got locked down for 2 months, managed to get a consulate flight home, and only missed the Warrington game “thank god” so I hope we can start playing soon, and as it looks likely it will be behind closed doors, and the players are in agreement, the proposal of an August resumption seems a long way off.
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| Does anyone actually have any confidence in both the rugby league and super league to make the right decision? Three months in and we have literally no news, no concrete plans and a potential restart date that is too far away to be acceptable to almost anyone - what the hell is actually going on?
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Does anyone actually have any confidence in both the rugby league and super league to make the right decision? Three months in and we have literally no news, no concrete plans and a potential restart date that is too far away to be acceptable to almost anyone - what the hell is actually going on?'"
It’s frustrating Seb, but with the start of horse racing, and other sports slowly coming back, I’m sure both the league bodies are trying to do things safely and thoughtfully, very difficult and paramount they take the right steps.
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| A previous pearl of wisdom from Professor Karol Sikora.
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This is extremely encouraging.
A new study from Imperial shows the total deaths could be lower than 7000 - less than seasonal flu.
The peak could be just a week away if true.
What we are all doing is working - just by staying at home we are saving lives.'"
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| Did you not read the part where he says a study states.
Or the part where he says if true.
Poor attempt at twisting somebodys positivity.
Il reply as i think you bored everybody else
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| hi rider,yup still knocking around even though I`m in the vulnerable category for this virus.hope your keeping well.
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| A report in today’s Hull live, suggests training by professional clubs will end the furlough scheme. Difficult position for rugby league in an already struggling sport, you can’t expect a collision game like ours, to enter matches under prepared. The madness goes on.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"A report in today’s Hull live, suggests training by professional clubs will end the furlough scheme. Difficult position for rugby league in an already struggling sport, you can’t expect a collision game like ours, to enter matches under prepared. The madness goes on.'"
‘‘This was discussed earlier this week and apparently the furlough scheme ends when players actually start playing. Personally I think it will take at least 3 weeks of full contact training before players will be anywhere near ready for a full on game. How long did NRL take before they resumed? I don’t see why we can’t get up and running by 2nd week in July.
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| Sure I saw an article saying rugby union had been granted exemption from the furlough issue
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Sure I saw an article saying rugby union had been granted exemption from the furlough issue'"
Not so much an exemption as clarification. It seems any employee can undertake training in the core business of their employer, so long as the employer is not making an income directly from it. So, all RL players could be training now, BUT how that would fit with employed coaches, physio etc. I am not sure.
IF the chairmen wanted it, it would be happening, it really does seem to me they don't want behind closed doors games if they can be avoided.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"‘‘This was discussed earlier this week and apparently the furlough scheme ends when players actually start playing. Personally I think it will take at least 3 weeks of full contact training before players will be anywhere near ready for a full on game. How long did NRL take before they resumed? I don’t see why we can’t get up and running by 2nd week in July.'"
I didn’t see earlier discussions Armavinit, and what I’ve read, perhaps I’m wrong, but it actually intimates the furlough scheme will end on the resumption of “training” which you can imagine if correct will tempt cash starved clubs not to prepare till the last possible pay day.
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| I don't understand why chairman wouldn't want the games behind closed doors if there's a financial compensation fund for for lost revenue due to games being played behind closed doors, if that's the case clubs won't lose income as they can claim all matchday income back.
Let's face it they cannot be avoided, I'd say sky's premiership schedule is delaying superleague, so when the footballs close to being done, rugby will start gearing up for a start, mark my words. And then itl be behind closed doors until the government deem it safe.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"I don't understand why chairman wouldn't want the games behind closed doors if there's a financial compensation fund for for lost revenue due to games being played behind closed doors, if that's the case clubs won't lose income as they can claim all matchday income back.
Let's face it they cannot be avoided, I'd say sky's premiership schedule is delaying superleague, so when the footballs close to being done, rugby will start gearing up for a start, mark my words. And then itl be behind closed doors until the government deem it safe.'"
Would the "financial compensation fund for for lost revenue" cover the potential compensation cost to pass holders + the loss of walk up revenue?
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| I'm presuming they may go on past attendances or an average of past attendances of the specific team were playing then reimburse ticket sales for that, something similar, that's me guessing , I'm not sure of the finer details but obviously FC will be compensated.
The walk up revenue could be covered and improved upon In my opinion by making every game pay per view charge say £8 to watch each game via Sky match select, 20,000 viewers should easy be doable sat in the comfort of your sports starved home, that'd be £160k per home game plus financial compensation recieved from the RFL
Remains to be seen how itl function though
How much compensation do pass holders want?
Would you be happy potentially getting pay per view games free as well as discounts on future shirts or passes?
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"I'm presuming they may go on past attendances or an average of past attendances of the specific team were playing then reimburse ticket sales for that, something similar, that's me guessing , I'm not sure of the finer details but obviously FC will be compensated.
The walk up revenue could be covered and improved upon In my opinion by making every game pay per view charge say £8 to watch each game via Sky match select, 20,000 viewers should easy be doable sat in the comfort of your sports starved home, that'd be £160k per home game plus financial compensation recieved from the RFL
Remains to be seen how itl function though
How much compensation do pass holders want?
Would you be happy potentially getting pay per view games free as well as discounts on future shirts or passes?'"
What about those that already have Sky, and the free PL games being aired etc. Players Union not helping the situation either I hear.
It will be mid August, behind closed doors for the rest of the season, they surely can't let stadiums be opened until a vaccine, not if they have any sense.
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| I already have sky but don't have the option to watch every FC game, there's already an agreement for a televised schedule stick to that, then make every other game pay per view, that way clubs honour the broadcasting agreement as well as make extra money from pay per view.
If it is the £16m will be used.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"I already have sky but don't have the option to watch every FC game, there's already an agreement for a televised schedule stick to that, then make every other game pay per view, that way clubs honour the broadcasting agreement as well as make extra money from pay per view.
If it is the £16m will be used.'"
As has been said in the other thread, the £16m is for the whole sport, not just SL, it isn't to make up revenue above and beyond keeping the business afloat, and it has to be paid back.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I didn’t see earlier discussions Armavinit, and what I’ve read, perhaps I’m wrong, but it actually intimates the furlough scheme will end on the resumption of “training” which you can imagine if correct will tempt cash starved clubs not to prepare till the last possible pay day.'"
Yes, I’ve just seen the article and as you say HMRC have stated furlough ends when players report back for training. HDM did carry a story stating Union had been given dispensation.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Yes, I’ve just seen the article and as you say HMRC have stated furlough ends when players report back for training. HDM did carry a story stating Union had been given dispensation.'"
[url=https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/03/hmrc-says-premiership-ineligible-for-furlough-when-contact-drills-resumeGuardian article that states as you say...[/url
[url=https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/furlough-scheme-super-league-training-4176147Original HDM article[/url
[url=https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/super-league-clubs-training-furlough-4191779Clarification from HDM (and that they nicked the original from The Daily Mail)[/url
so, basically the observation from RnR about waiting u til the last minute to resume training hangs true...(for today, anyway, seems everything changes every hour!)
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| Quote ="IR80"What about those that already have Sky, and the free PL games being aired etc. Players Union not helping the situation either I hear.
It will be mid August, behind closed doors for the rest of the season, they surely can't let stadiums be opened until a vaccine, not if they have any sense.'"
Are you saying that vaccination will be compulsory?
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| My logic is that money dictates
Sky broadcasting deals need honouring, premiership football is way more of a priority than super league due to viewing figures, sponsorships etc
There's absolutely no room for superleague slots amongst the premiership schedule, so we l have to wait. Best case scenario is due to us waiting till August the number of cases drops off a cliff and the virus weakens significantly possibly possibly (don't have a fanny fit) allowing fans back into stadiums, very optimistic I can't see it personally but who know.
If fans are allowed back in stadiums before the end of the year Pearson will see it as a result.
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| How many deaths where they in Hull on each of the last seven days?
Could you list the deaths by each day starting with last Friday?
genuinely intrigued, il be suprised if you post the facts
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| I'm guessing you've deleted your post IR80
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