Don't we think henderson is worth a go if price doesn't improve our fortunes? He was doing a great job at London and they played great rugby under henderson, surely the plan was to bring him in to be our next coach after a few years of being understudy.

Got a feeling Price will have another 10/12 games to turn this around.

The next 6 games are key as to how the rest of the season will pan out; Toronto home, Leeds away, Cas Home, Hull FC away, HKR Away, Catalan home...

Realistically with the squad we have and if we want to be challenging for the top, we should be winning 5-6 of those games minimum. Winning only 3 or less games should be considered a failure and the pressure will be on from the fans to sack him...Regardless of the CC win last year, we need to be ruthless like Leeds was with Furner.

Furner’s record last year was as follows:

Team Gms W D L W%

Leeds Rhinos 15 5 0 10 33

Fair enough but has had to deal with constant squad disruption and in the most part, punched above.

I have the misfortune of watching Salford a lot and their fans adore him.

Not a lot. Scott and John are both dead (one of them, last year), and I don't know about Gary.
No Regrets still remains one of my favourite songs of all time, though.

Yes, if and when SP's tenure ends, I'd give Hendo a go rather than Watson.

This is why I love talking about the old times on this forum, this era was tantalisingly just a few years before I started, and all I have is Rothmans and what I've read from some stuff I can find on the internet. Nothing beats hearing about history from first hand observers, especially the ones who were in their younger days when you are at your most RL obsessional (like me in the 90s).

I think we were on the verge of something big around 1986/87 and again in 1993/94, but we failed to capitalise. In the 1980s maybe you can't criticise the club too much as Andy Gregory wanted out and they did at least try to make big signings with Woods and Drummond, they were just losing talent at the same time so slid slowly backwards. And they were trying to compete with the big rise in Wigan's spending power.

In the 1990s the lack of ambition was disappointing because a window was opening with SL on the horizon and Wigan's great dynasty coming to an end. With the young talent that we had on the books at the time plus an emerging Harris and Sculthorpe who knows what we could have gone on to achieve if we'd have seized the moment instead of rather lamely allowing Davies, Bateman and Mackey to leave. In 1994 we finished joint top and missed out on points difference, level on points with Wigan and also Bradford. Bradford were the ones who seized the moment. You just wonder whether if we had shown a bit more ambition then, the stars had lined up for us to be able to do what Bradford did over the next decade.

The moat appalling aspect of all this is the insinuation that because I remember the 86 team, I'm old. Nonsense, I started young. Young enough to be considered child cruelty frankly.

And what's a boomer? I thought that was a type of loaf?

A boomer is someone old enough to remember when you only got 3 points for a try.

A milennial is someone young enough that they didn't know you used to only get 3 for a try.

Hard to put up any kind of arguement, sally, but the club's failure to capitalise on the Prem season was solely down to Gregory. The club were "between a rock and a hard place, simply because of Wigan's purchase power. Widnes suffered the same effect, 4-5 years later, when they (Wigan) came sniffing for Offiah (by this time, Leeds had gone pro, but had "spurted" a ton of money on John Gallagher, who stunk the house out for them). Player power existed even back in the mid 80's in RL. That pack (given better diets/training regimes etc) was better than our 2011/12 pack, imo.
The non kicking on of the 94 side remains puzzling. Davies got injured playing for GB, Francis Maloney was a joke, and Bruce Maguire never really "hit the heights" in a Wire jersey. Add to that, our pack was still not good enough, didn't help. Then, a year later, Davies (and eventually Bateman) went back to the 3 point code. C'est la vie.
Genuine question, as this tired "brain" has forgotten, but what happened to Mackey. My memories of him after April 94 are non existent. Please help.

Anyway. Back on thread.
Price is a waste of time. (obviously, apart from the CC) He's brought nowt but dour rugby to us.
...and, a bit like I mentioned before regarding Watson with the GB situation....why promote Henderson? Surely HE'S had some input into this situation, and we've lost godknows how many since July 2019..

I don't know WHERE these replacements are going to come from (I pay NO attention to the NRL), but we need a new direction, with a totally new coaching staff. We don't owe Briers a living. Is Chambers still here? Didn't we give Westwood a job.? For God's sake, this isn't the "Anfield bootroom" of the 70's/80's where they've won everything, so they employ from within.

Our ethos needs to change. QUICKLY.

I've fixed that for you

I would guess that Mr's Moran and Middleton have amassed their business success and fortunes by being extremely ruthless, they are clearly not being so with the club, they may have employed a person to be that way and ensure it becomes a successful club. It is therefore clear that neither Moran, Middleton and their representative are being business/ruthless minded to ensure there is success.

This has to change very quickly before another season slips into the night

i think, mackey went back home partway through the shortened 95 centenary season, we signed mike ford(and his dodgy knee) from the crushers in australia where his career had died, mackey came back a few months later to play for huddersfield.

Word on the street is, so I've been told from inside camp... During the Pre-season Price was been told the CC saved his job and he has been given until Easter to prove himself and the team otherwise he's getting the axe.

I suspect those who gave him the ultimatum had thought it worked until Sunday, they'll be watching closely over the next month.

Give him the rest of this month and March and see how the performances and results go, then make a decision the team and the fans do not deserve another lackluster season filled with poor management.

Based of last year for me he should have gone regardless of the Challenge Cup.

The problem is, who can we attract with the performances and who is there that is available that would get the most from the team because I will be honest, I have not looked in to who is or might be available.

100% agree with this. The appointment of Priced in the first place was a prolonged farce. Player recruitment in the recent past has been somewhat hit and miss. For all we hear about a superb well run organisation there seem to be some yawning gaps in expertise in some areas

I think the game (RL) is suffering from a big player shortage overall. We have the resources to get pretty much who we like...and we can't seem to do it. Which points to either bad scouting OR lack of available talent.

Thanks FMC

Well after three games we are where I thought we might be, albeit having arrived there via a different route.

After two good performance, enormous efforts against the pies and saints, it was always going to be some ask to overturn a wakey team playing their first home game of the season, who had got an extra weeks rest over us, in those very heavy conditions.

And but for a bit of luck we almost made it.

So for me it’s to to early to change anything regards Price, the green shoots are there

I should imagine that we are still considered the 4th or 5th best job in European Rugby League with financial power, great facilities and good support base.

I'm sorry but I expect more. We had 9 days rest and Wakefield had some key players out. A side that wants to win SL wins at Wakefield.

I'm not sure his job is in Danger, first year he took us to 2 finals, even though we lost we got there. Played some really good Skillful rugby the first half of last season, Won the challenge cup, then suffered a strange downward spiral the back end the season. This year we plsyed Wigan and defensively worked our asses off with 12 men for 55mins, and i believe if Hill wasn't sent off we would have won. Then smashed saints and Nilled them, (cue the depleted team rubbish) then lost a game on a boggy slippy mud bath pitch. I don't think his job is in Danger, we're only 3 games in and the first 2 games we looked amazing regardless of the loss at Wigan.

I never understand it when people talk about 'getting to finals' when the goal should be 'winning finals'

The league form decline started before the CC win. Facts are facts 2 wins from 12, I would also question the use of the word "amazing".

Hear hear. I bet you Shaun Wane and Ellery Hanley didn't take comfort from being beaten finalists.

The simples is, we dropped a bollox not signing a prop in close season. The board knows it...we know it.
I don't know whether it's Priceys fault, KF fault or both....but it's someones.
It was all too apparent when we lost Hill...had Saints not lost Warmsley before kick off, there may not have been that balance shift to such a scale.

Yes Wire will pick up wins with the return of Hill, but loose a prop again and backs against the wall...keep them fit and playing...we win.