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Jean Capouze. A reason why I use another forum.
Bored of your 'controversial' discussion.
A dying forum with fake rubbish to keep advertisers funding the site.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"The only t!ts on here are those trying to belittle Fev's achievement by harping on about their successful DR arrangement - something which is available to every club in the Championship and used by many of them.[u As I said before, a simple net search would have provided the answer to the question posed.[/u'"
He asked a simple question irrespective of the inference behind it if any, wouldn't it have been just as simple for you to tell him, assuming you know of course. |
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Featherstone would bring nothing to Super League's national let alone international profile, other than another obscure or totally unknown tiny pit town on a map. Toronto on the other hand would bring international name recognition, tens of thousands of new fans, and millions of dollars in sponsorship. It's a no brainer. Toronto must win promotion for the good of the game.'"
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"Jean Capouze. A reason why I use another forum.
Bored of your 'controversial' discussion.
A dying forum with fake rubbish to keep advertisers funding the site.'"
Jeffrey Vickers. A reason why I have no time for anti-expansionists. They have no logical or coherent rebuttal of my arguments, which are actually not controversial. The anti-expansionists simply say that they are either angry or "bored" with my arguments, thereby conceding that they cannot rebut my arguments. Anti-expansionists are truly pathetic, because they don't have an intellectual leg to stand on. |
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The point of promotion is to reward the best team in the division . Then hopefully in the following season the promoted club will be competitive in Super League.The weakness of the top five play offs is that the fifth team will sometimes win promotion.I am not having a dig at Featherstone but you have to question the wisdom of promoting the fifth team in the division, if they win the final.whether it is Featherstone or any other team.For me the sensible thing would be to promote the top team in the Championship.As a climax to the season have a play off system to win a trophy,not to win promotion.
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| Quote ="davetrin"The point of promotion is to reward the best team in the division . Then hopefully in the following season the promoted club will be competitive in Super League.The weakness of the top five play offs is that the fifth team will sometimes win promotion.I am not having a dig at Featherstone but you have to question the wisdom of promoting the fifth team in the division, if they win the final.whether it is Featherstone or any other team.For me the sensible thing would be to promote the top team in the Championship.As a climax to the season have a play off system to win a trophy,not to win promotion.'"
I get your point but Fev are in the final on merit. They've done it tough with three away games on the trot and they've played really well in all of them. They had a bit of a slump mid season which is probably why the finished where they did but they still have one of the best squads in the division imo.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"He asked a simple question irrespective of the inference behind it if any, wouldn't it have been just as simple for you to tell him, assuming you know of course.'"
On the three strikes rule, it probably means that he doesn't know or, is being a smart 
I'd go with the 3 DR players mentioned by another poster and if Mr Dog wants to correct that number, well, that's up to him.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"On the three strikes rule, it probably means that he doesn't know or, is being a smart
Also, the DR system has been awful and regularly abused.
The theory of it, to give fringe players some game time seems ok but, when you see international players putting in an odd appearance for a lower league club, there is something not quite right.'"
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| Quote ="davetrin"The point of promotion is to reward the best team in the division . Then hopefully in the following season the promoted club will be competitive in Super League.The weakness of the top five play offs is that the fifth team will sometimes win promotion.I am not having a dig at Featherstone but you have to question the wisdom of promoting the fifth team in the division, if they win the final.whether it is Featherstone or any other team.For me the sensible thing would be to promote the top team in the Championship.As a climax to the season have a play off system to win a trophy,not to win promotion.'"
But under licensing it was ok to promote an awful Widnes team from 6th who had conceded an aggregate of 100 points to Fev that season. |
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| Quote ="snowie"you do exaggerate, tens of thousands of new fans and millions of dollars what a =#FF0000Original post edited you really are
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Maybe Bartholomew McKenzie will be seen less around these parts now he has no further opportunities to promote his faux love-in with Catalans & Toulouse after their meek surrenders recently. I've got nothing against either team btw but you almost feel impelled to want them to lose just so the troll goes crawling back under his stone (a 10 tonne boulder would be better  ).
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| Quote ="davetrin"The point of promotion is to reward the best team in the division . Then hopefully in the following season the promoted club will be competitive in Super League.The weakness of the top five play offs is that the fifth team will sometimes win promotion.I am not having a dig at Featherstone but you have to question the wisdom of promoting the fifth team in the division, if they win the final.whether it is Featherstone or any other team.For me the sensible thing would be to promote the top team in the Championship.As a climax to the season have a play off system to win a trophy,not to win promotion.'"
The contest to gain promotion from the Championship now mirrors what happens to decide the winner of SL. Why should it be different winning a trophy to gaining promotion? In football, the reverse of what you suggest holds true, with playoffs to determine the final make-up of promoted teams, and the winner of the Premier League being first past the post. |
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Let’s all get behind fev and stick it up the rfls jaxie again lol
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So, Fev have stated that if they gain promotion to SL they will be part time. sounds like a club who want to pocket most of the sky money to themselves, get into the top flight and make a profit and parachute back into the championship. I cannot see how been part-time will work in SL. What a farce.
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Quote ="Tigerade"So, Fev have stated that if they gain promotion to SL they will be part time. sounds like a club who want to pocket most of the sky money to themselves, get into the top flight and make a profit and parachute back into the championship. I cannot see how been part-time will work in SL. What a farce.'"
I don't know where to start with this, but
Fev have not "stated that they will be part time". You have half-read a badly-written piece on a RL website.
What Davide Longo said when asked about it was "we're looking at one or two options - a hybrid version of a full-time environment". Fev already have 16 players signed on for next season, I'd expect if Fev did get promoted some of those would renegotiate to being full time, some would stay part-time, and Fev would bring in a fair chunk of new full-time players...remember, the signings they have made so far have been based on a Championship budget and Fev might find themselves with more spare cash than most SL clubs if they did get promoted.
There are always more players than you'd think available after the season has ended, too - indeed, TotalRL did a story just this morning about Australian players that are known to be available and being offered to SL clubs https://www.totalrl.com/raft-of-nrl-pla ... e-clubs-2/ . The idea that Mark Campbell has spent the last 12 years ploughing masses of his own money into building Fev up, only to turn into a cheapskate once his ambition of reaching SL might be finally realised, is preposterous.
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I don't know where to start with this, but
Fev have not "stated that they will be part time". You have half-read a badly-written piece on a RL website.
What Davide Longo said when asked about it was "we're looking at one or two options - a hybrid version of a full-time environment". Fev already have 16 players signed on for next season, I'd expect if Fev did get promoted some of those would renegotiate to being full time, some would stay part-time, and Fev would bring in a fair chunk of new full-time players...remember, the signings they have made so far have been based on a Championship budget and Fev might find themselves with more spare cash than most SL clubs if they did get promoted.
There are always more players than you'd think available after the season has ended, too - indeed, TotalRL did a story just this morning about Australian players that are known to be available and being offered to SL clubs https://www.totalrl.com/raft-of-nrl-pla ... e-clubs-2/ . The idea that Mark Campbell has spent the last 12 years ploughing masses of his own money into building Fev up, only to turn into a cheapskate once his ambition of reaching SL might be finally realised, is preposterous.
London came very close to staying in SL this year with basically the same team that finished 4th in the 2018 Championship plus a couple of additions. Whilst it would clearly be a tough ask, it's certainly possible that Fev could put together a competitive SL team by February. | |
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The people with the brains in Super League, of whom Ian Lenagan is the supremo, will want Toronto to win tonight. There is simply no advantage to adding a geographical pinprick of a former pit town to a competition that proclaims itself "Super."
Toronto's victory on the other hand, will usher in a burst of media attention, and a reevaluation of the significance of rugby league from a British media that has rightly been contemptuous of the game's regional parochialism. If Toronto can retain its place, and Toulouse is promoted to join it this time next year, then we can look forward to an era of international development and respect.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The people with the brains in Super League, of whom Ian Lenagan is the supremo, will want Toronto to win tonight. There is simply no advantage to adding a geographical pinprick of a former pit town to a competition that proclaims itself "Super."
Toronto's victory on the other hand, will usher in a burst of media attention, and a reevaluation of the significance of rugby league from a British media that has rightly been contemptuous of the game's regional parochialism. If Toronto can retain its place, and Toulouse is promoted to join it this time next year, then we can look forward to an era of international development and respect.'"
Well, we'll soon find out, assuming TWP doesn't balls it up again. Robert Elstone, glove puppet of that supreme intellectual Ian Lenagan, is currently haggling with Sky over a new two (2) year deal! I can't even begin to imagine the likely riches that this new deal will bring one TWP is promoted. |
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The people with the brains in Super League, of whom Ian Lenagan is the supremo, will want Toronto to win tonight. There is simply no advantage to adding a geographical pinprick of a former pit town to a competition that proclaims itself "Super."
Toronto's victory on the other hand, will usher in a burst of media attention, and a reevaluation of the significance of rugby league from a British media that has rightly been contemptuous of the game's regional parochialism. If Toronto can retain its place, and Toulouse is promoted to join it this time next year, then we can look forward to an era of international development and respect.'"
Assuming that Toronto will be allowed into SL - there were a few issues recently, they will gain promotion on the field of play and not because of their geographical location and as RL is a sport (just) that is exactly as it should be.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Assuming that Toronto will be allowed into SL - there were a few issues recently, they will gain promotion on the field of play and not because of their geographical location and as RL is a sport (just) that is exactly as it should be.
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This is short term thinking. Toronto will not have any local players in the team next year. But if the team is successful for several years, we may well see Canadian players emerging in five years. That would be far more significant for the growth of the game than a handful of (mostly journeymen) players that Featherstone could generate in the next couple of years. Having Canadian born players will make Canadian sports fans and the Canadian and British media stand up and pay attention to the game. Having a few journeymen emerge from the obscure Yorkshire pit town will impress nobody. |
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Can't wait! Let's see if their bum falls out like last year. Fev have no pressure. Come on the Flatcappers! If Toronto fail again do you think they'll have another go?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"This is short term thinking. Toronto will not have any local players in the team next year. But if the team is successful for several years, we may well see Canadian players emerging in five years. That would be far more significant for the growth of the game than a handful of (mostly journeymen) players that Featherstone could generate in the next couple of years. Having Canadian born players will make Canadian sports fans and the Canadian and British media stand up and pay attention to the game. Having a few journeymen emerge from the obscure Yorkshire pit town will impress nobody.'"
Toronto could have risked a couple of homegrown players when they were trouncing all before them in League 1 b 50+ points a game.
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For the bigger picture, Toronto need to win. There is no point having another small northern town who have to rely on super league academy players on loan to survive. If we went to grow as a sport then we need Toronto and not fev
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