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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"So the top five play-offs are about to get underway. Where is Wakey?
You know that club who claimed to be an 'established top five club' not too long ago but now after dodging the drop by a narrow margin have celebratory music over the tannoy, fans on the pitch and smalltime chants of 'we are Super League'. So much for being an 'established top five club.
I'd like to see Cas be GF winners btw, the lesser of five evils.'"
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| Quote ="MattyB"Of course they have. I don't know where all this has come from. If Saints perform anywhere near their best at Old Trafford they should beat us by a couple of scores (assuming both teams get there).
Next season I'm hoping we can close the gap.'"
I meant outside of Saints and Wigan
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"i like how warrington are getting dismissed, the last time that happened, we won the challenge cup.'"
Completely different. The Challenge Cup Final was a one off game and Warrington put in a very good performance that was perfect for knockout rugby. For you to win the Grand Final you’re going to have to win 4 games in a row all against top 5 opposition. I’d say at least two of those games would require a performance at the same level as the CC Final. With the form you’re in that is beyond unlikely and imo, not going to happen. The GF is harder to win and Warrington, currently, aren’t anywhere near good enough.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"i like how warrington are getting dismissed, the last time that happened, we won the challenge cup.'"
Your form of late hasn't been good, but i wish you well
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Check your facts, what makes you think flex is a saints fan?
Most saints fans don't actually post on this forum.'"
My bad, he hasn't posted for so long I'd forgotten who his team was.
Mind you, with Leeds having had a few "lean" seasons, he may have jumped ship
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| Wigan beat Salford
Warrington beat Cas
Warrington beat Salford
Wigan beat saints
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Wigan Warrington GF
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Wigan beat Salford
Warrington beat Cas
Warrington beat Salford
Wigan beat saints
Warrington beat saints
Wigan Warrington GF'"
Good start. 4 out of 6 predictions down in one go, impressive.
Let's hope you're equally as accurate tomorrow night as well.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"Good start.
4 out of 6 predictions down in one go, impressive.
Let's hope you're equally as accurate tomorrow night as well.
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Let's hope that most of the posters on here are right about Salford as well, I'd love an upset.
On the basis that Warrington beat Saints so easily when it mattered, I wonder if there is any doubt creeping in over there.
Saints temperament has looked suspect in the big games and many of their side was overcome by the pressure at Wembley and at Bolton last season.
Expectation can do strange things and both Salford and Cas have free reign.
Already written off by so many pundits and RLFans "experts" they can both play unhindered.
Right now, I'd rather be a Wigan fan than a Saints supporter.(I dont want to be either btw)
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| I just hope that tonight Salfold can prove to themselves and their supporters that they too are just as [urelevant[/u in the play-off series as the Tigers.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"I just hope that tonight Salfold can prove to themselves and their supporters that they too are just as [urelevant[/u in the play-off series as the Tigers.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873".....
On the basis that Warrington beat Saints so easily when it mattered, I wonder if there is any doubt creeping in over there..... '"
Creeping?
I think we are way past denial and have moved on to acceptance that we are unlikely to win it.
I think the normal saints posters on here have called a Wigan win.
So unless you listen to the trolls then we know that our team has a tendancy to get squeaky s come knockout games.
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| I do find it highly amusing fans of a club like Wakefield are going on about Stains being bottlers. You'd think they'd have more important things to worry about.
Like how a so-called 'established top five club' ended up dodging relegation by a narrow margin instead and had muppets on the pitch 'celebrating' it.
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"I do find it highly amusing fans of a club like Wakefield are going on about Stains being bottlers. You'd think they'd have more important things to worry about.
Like how a so-called 'established top five club' ended up dodging relegation by a narrow margin instead and had muppets on the pitch 'celebrating' it.'"
FFS. Change the tune.
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| Quote ="JonnoTheGreat"I do find it highly amusing fans of a club like Wakefield are going on about Stains being bottlers. You'd think they'd have more important things to worry about.
Like how a so-called 'established top five club' ended up dodging relegation by a narrow margin instead and had muppets on the pitch 'celebrating' it.'"
Wakefield have never been an established top five club so why are you saying they are?
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Creeping?
I think we are way past denial and have moved on to acceptance that we are unlikely to win it.
I think the normal saints posters on here have called a Wigan win.
So unless you listen to the trolls then we know that our team has a tendancy to get squeaky s come knockout games.'"
I know
A couple of your "noisy" regular fans, who were posting on here daily, have gone very, very quiet of late.
Maybe they aren't actually Saints fans at all but, Wigan still look the most likely to lift the Trophy, even though Salford, called "irrelevant" by another of your "fans" pushed them right to the limit and they look like they should take care of Cas next week.
You still feel that it will be Saints v Wigan in the final but, there could be a surprise or 2 still to come.
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| I didn't see a lot from Wigan last night that has me running scared ahead of next Friday but they've still got plenty of experience at this stage of the season and while man for man we are better, they've still got enough dangerous players.
Looks like Powell is out for them too which will be a big loss.
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| Quote ="RuddyScoosers"I didn't see a lot from Wigan last night that has me running scared ahead of next Friday but they've still got plenty of experience at this stage of the season and while man for man we are better, they've still got enough dangerous players.
Looks like Powell is out for them too which will be a big loss.'"
You must have seen a different game.
Their defense was immense, you don't win finals with flashy rugby. There are very few spectacular tries scored in finals.
You need low errors, low missed tackles, low penalties. High completion rates and a good kicking game.
Add to that and intensity and energy and Wigan had that in spades.
What worries me is that Saints have coasted most of our games and when we last met Wigan their pack was full of youngsters.
How we react in a knock out game, when we are level pegging or behind after 40 minutes is what will test this saints team.
If we play percentages and look to apply pressure we will be OK. But recent knockout games seems to indicate we don't enjoy the arm wrestle and errors creep in all over the place from all our players.
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| Bit Cliche but I think this Wigan team is very different to the ones that have lost to saints earlier in the year. Got some experienced forwards back ( O’Loughlin, Greenwood, Flower) and Smithies, Partington and Bryne have improved massively and look like first teamers rather than kids just doing there best
Sam Powell injured is bad, no real back up hooker and he’s always good for 50 tackles a week.
I think Wigan have it in them to beat saints once but probably not twice in the next 3 weeks.
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| Quote ="NSW"Bit Cliche but I think this Wigan team is very different to the ones that have lost to saints earlier in the year. Got some experienced forwards back ( O’Loughlin, Greenwood, Flower) and Smithies, Partington and Bryne have improved massively and look like first teamers rather than kids just doing there best
Sam Powell injured is bad, no real back up hooker and he’s always good for 50 tackles a week.
I think Wigan have it in them to beat saints once but probably not twice in the next 3 weeks.'"
That's assuming Wigan get to play Saints twice.
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| Quote ="NSW"Bit Cliche but I think this Wigan team is very different to the ones that have lost to saints earlier in the year. Got some experienced forwards back ( O’Loughlin, Greenwood, Flower) and Smithies, Partington and Bryne have improved massively and look like first teamers rather than kids just doing there best
Sam Powell injured is bad, no real back up hooker and he’s always good for 50 tackles a week.
I think Wigan have it in them to beat saints once but probably not twice in the next 3 weeks.'"
The previous posters have said it.
Wigan's defence looks the best of the remaining clubs in the comp plus, their mindset and nous when it comes to winning Grand Finals, a bit like Leeds of a few seasons ago - who just seemed to know how to win.
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