He didn't mention away crowds, he was talking about Leeds' ability to draw crowds to Headingley.

It's a valid point tbf. Leeds are the biggest club in SL because they draw the biggest crowds and TV audiences. That in turn brings in the sponsors and helps the TV deals. Leeds' crowds are largely due to their on field success over the last 15 years. Take that success away and how long is it until they become just another moderately sized club? We know that sports fans are fickle, and there are a good chunk of Leeds fans that have never been there for any bad or even mediocre times.

If Leeds stay up and get back to competing for trophies, then of course they are very important to SL. If they stay up and continue to knock around lower mid table for the next few years with a few more relegation scraps, then not so much. Of course no one has a crystal ball, so we don't know.

Again? Tell someone in a different thread about sponsors/crowds etc.... I've had close to 20 years of being told London Broncos don't bring anything to the game, that our crowds are a disgrace and that promotion/relegation is a matter to be settled only on the pitch....this year, with fewer than a dozen rounds to go, we have 6 or 7 sides who are dabbling with relegation....let the dice fall where they will. Whomever is bottom goes down......anything else and the game in the UK becomes more of a laughing stock!
If it's London, we've shown it's not the end of us.....and neither would it be the end of any of the other "dabblers" except maybe Salford, but if the RFL/SL board are in any doubt about the idea of Leeds going down, then they need to act now and declare the new format as part of an IMPROVED TV deal.......anything else will make us look tin-pot

I'm not sure you quite got the essence of my post. I'm not suggesting for one second that Leeds should be saved if they finish bottom. Whoever finishes there should be relegated. I'm questioning this rhetoric that they are the biggest club in SL and are therefore vital to SL. They won't be such a big club for much longer if they continue to be a bottom 4 club.

Fwiw I think a 14 team league is the right way to go. That's nothing to do with Leeds though, in fact I would love to see them go down. I just think it gives us a fairer and more varied fixture list.

Leeds are very much in decline, they might still have the biggest home crowd largely due to the demographic, its when you see the away support that you realise how the mighty have fallen.
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There is a lot of pressure on all the clubs from now on be it the top 5 or the bottom 5 and I expect lots of clubs will up there games, I think Leeds will battle on to avoid relegation but they are certainly losing that top club badge if you look at the perspective of performances, quality of players.
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In the last 4 years they have had 3 seasons of potential relegation, can they stop the slide of home support and for the future lag behind Hull, Warrington, Wigan and Saints who have much weaker "homeland" demographics.

Judging by the taxi load of fans Leeds brought to us earlier in the season, being replaced by Toronto won’t hurt our coffers too much.

Leeds have a decent number of ‘fans’, but it will be interesting to see how many supporters they’d have in the championship.

They would add to an already competitive championship on the playing side though and that can only be good for the interest in the championship.

You really are an idiot.

In Printers defence I assume maths isn't a strong point. And if your maths isn't great how do you count? By using your fingers and thumbs!!! Problem is he's from Leeds and using that method causes problems... hence the additional couple of years inadvertently added onto his post.

(just a little Lancs-Yorks bit of banter their Mr Printer

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I'd love to see Leeds go down tbh. A year without the Leeds Symphonic Orchestra playing live on Sky every other week and not having to listen to "Marching on together" is my idea of RL heaven.

Likewise, it would be hilarious and not having them on sky so often would be great as well. They’d come straight back up anyway so the idea that it would be damaging for Super League is rubbish. Not like they’re contributing a great deal now anyway.

More a case of not focusing enough as I simply forgot the “or so” to “10 years or so”

Maths is fine, see
Leeds vs Saints GF wins
Leeds - 4
Saints - ZERO

Not as funny as Saints fans giving it the big one all of last year only to choke when it mattered as per usual. ;(

see this is why I like to see the back of you and your like, in fact your both as bad

Why? Because I support a team whose won plenty of silverware? Don’t act like you’re any better as I’ve seen you giving it out towards Leeds plenty this season even on the Leeds board a couple of times acting smug.

Getting back on topic, we definitely have the harder run in compared to Warrington. We play them away twice. If they can pick up 4 points from them it’s game on for the race for top. The only thing that gives me a bit of comfort is that Warrington are so patchy so I can see them beating us then losing against one of the lesser teams.

We will finish top, just and it will be a Saints v Hull grand final with Wakefield relegated

I think we are getting to the stage of the season were shock results are starting to surface. The likes of Leeds, Hull K R, and London are desperate to avoid relegation and will beat some of the higher placed teams.
Saints + Warrington are pretty nailed on for top 2, it’s interesting who will get that 5th place.

I don't think Warrington are quite stronig enough to nick top now - it's certainly not impossible but I'm very confident Saints will hold on at the top - I can't see us losing both of the Warrington games.

I think we'll win the first one and may even rest players for the second.

thing is you think your better

don't like it down at the bottom do you feller like they've said on here suck it up

I think that 6pt cushion is allowing us to rest and rotate quite a few players instead of flogging them all like last season. Warrington are a bit different they struggle when the likes of Ratchford, Clark and Austin are not in the side, the likes of Austin I think has played in every game this season, will they flog Clark and Austin to win the LLS I'm not sure. I should imagine if the gap is still the same with 8 games to play they will settle for 2nd place as both teams get 2 bites of the cherry play off.

Ratchford is out injured and clark was rested last week against hull kr,...............probably why we lost!

Am with you on that. Wish that drummer would stick his drum up a dark place. Always have sound turned down when Leeds are on every other game.

Try having your main players out all season as we have with Quinlan and Lunt.

Can`t see Leeds being relegated myself, having said that, Broncos play as a team who put in a fight, Rovers now have Smith at the helm, will be interesting as a Hull fan to see how that develops Can`t see Hull making the G.F. its like a roller coaster ride watching them. On a good day I reckon they can beat anyone, on a bad one, total blow up.

I don’t think I’m better.....I know



Not too fussed about being at the bottom as you hope I was. I’m a Leeds fan who actually realised it couldn’t and wouldn’t always be good times and hence why I was much more appreciate of McDermott’s time at the club and getting an extra few trophies out of the old guard that others possibly wouldn’t have done. Criticise Leeds fans as ones who won’t stick with the club through tough times like fans of other clubs will yet I’m here now during rubbish times backing them to come good in time. Nothing new I took a ton of grief and insults and mocking on the Leeds board in 2016 when we struggled post floods and I said we’d come good in 2017 with a full preseason, even during 2017 I got it when we took some beatings from Cas.....but who was right in the end

Did the floods return pre-2018?

Salford seem to have hit a bit if form.... Huddersfield are right back In the mix and leeds will be in dire trouble if they cant do the french next weekend..... It is a genuinely exciting season......