That’s the only reason I can think of for doing it.

If true that’s pretty pathetic and shows why this game struggles to progress.

Presumably they just offer what they believe it's worth. Michael Carter isn't an idiot, he's not going to overpay for something just to make a point. I imagine the goal is just to make sure that Bradford pay the market rate for it as it would indeed be pretty absurd having other chairmen owning the lease of Bradford's ground but the most important thing is that the RFL get a proper price for it, especially after the amount of money they've wasted the last few years with things like Nigel Wood's severance package.

Not buying it

dunno about Hudgel but why would MC give a flying one how much Bradford pay for their lease
If he is genuinely interested in some way with Odsal, it would be purely a business interest I would have thought.

It doesn't make any sense so I'm calling BS, if something is going on, I highly doubt it has anything to do with ******* Bradford over.

I know that Carter was appointed by the rest of the SL chairmen to look into where the RFL have been spending money, why it's been spent and if the money can be spent better elsewhere and they get better value - words to that effect. it was talked about it earlier in the year on one of the podcasts with Wilson and Schofield on. That's the only reason I can think of why his name, in particular, is being brought up. We personally haven't got the money and could spend any cash on a million other things.

"We "(Trinity) may not have the cash but, that is massively different from Carter being able to raise funds independently, to take over the Odsal lease.Certainly, if there was a deal to offload it on the cheap, any astute businessman would fancy having a pop.

With some of the alleged shennanegens that went on when Yorkcourt couldnt come up with the cash to buy BV, which eventually led to 88M buying the site, it's certtainly concievable that he could come close to raising the cash for the Odsal lease, especially if it was going cheap and if theis keeps The RFL "honest", then that's absolutely fine.

As others have said, defining "market price" for Odsal would be interesting.

If MC is seriously after the lease you have to wonder whether acquiring the Bulls at some stage might also be on his radar. As things stand, it's hard to see what else he can do with Wakey whereas the same restrictions wouldn't apply to the BB.

Seriously doubt it. Think he literally just wants to make sure the RFL don't get rid of it for a low price.

Quote ="Pumpetypump"As our chairman says in this article it would be nice if Wakefield concerned themselves with their own quest for a ground rather than causing mischief regarding Odsal. https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -on-earth/ As a Bradford fan I think we've been through enough without being caught up in whatever games Hudgell and Carter are playing.'" This guy is the owner of the Bulls? Wow. It read more like a fan having a rant and it's a bit embarassing really. In what world would a prospective purchaser of a lease have to publicly explain their reasons for it and who else are they going to speak to other than the current owners? That said Odsal is a money pit so I would be surprised that anybody wants that noose around their neck, Bull included, it screwed them over last time it might again.

Quote ="Pumpetypump"As our chairman says in this article it would be nice if Wakefield concerned themselves with their own quest for a ground rather than causing mischief regarding Odsal. https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/ ... -on-earth/ As a Bradford fan I think we've been through enough without being caught up in whatever games Hudgell and Carter are playing.'" This guy is the owner of the Bulls? Wow. It read more like a fan having a rant and it's a bit embarassing really. In what world would a prospective purchaser of a lease have to publicly explain their reasons for it and who else are they going to speak to other than the current owners? That said Odsal is a money pit so I would be surprised that anybody wants that noose around their neck, Bull included, it screwed them over last time it might again.

Personally, I can't see it. he's said himself that's he's no multi-millionaire rich guy. At the most, I can see enquires been made on behalf of the SL teams seen as the RFL stumped up £1.3m for it wasn't it and they may want to take over that part of it. Also, it would be a conflict of interests if a couple of clubs bought it, which if I remember correctly isn't allowed anyway.

As I said, it's probably more to do with the job he agreed to do, due it being his skill set, by the other SL Chairman to make sure that the money the RFL put in isn't lost & given away on the cheap. I think it's no coincidence he was given that job months ago then not long after this started popping up.

I've only heard bulls fans talk about it and never read it before today,

, it's like something you'd find on here.

Why doesn't he give MC a ring, he's very easy to get hold of apparently, instead of talking crap on the T&A about a story where he's getting information from news reports.

According to that article he isn’t the only person at Wakefield getting involved inquiring about it. Whilst he’s been given a job to see how the RFL spend their money that doesn’t naturally equate to inquiring about Odsal’s availability for Wakefield’s use in 2017.

That article say Wakey originally wanted to use Odsal in 2017, not buy it which came this year, so talk of making sure “fair offers” from the RFL come up don’t add up completely.

I'm not sure why you think it doesn't as up. In 2017 we were getting messed around by the grounds new owners 88m, so Trinity's owners obviously got in touch with local teams like Bradford, Featherstone and Dewsbury which were the preferred ground if it came to it. But in the end, everything worked itself out.

Over a year after that, Carter was given by the other SL chairman the job to look into how and where the RFL have spent money and whether SL clubs were getting value for it. I'm not sure what doesn't add up tbh.

the article even says -
nothing more is mentioned apart from what Chalmers has heard in news reports.

So long story short, a couple of board members got in touch about the use of the ground in 2017, came to nothing because it's an obvious non-starter. Then in 2018 MC is doing his job looking into RFL affairs for SL owners.
Looks like you're looking for something that isn't there Printer. As I mentioned earlier, one of the main points being owners of clubs can't have vested interests in other clubs anyway - so really should put an end to it.

no further absurd than the RFL owning it

Just because that’s what you’ve decided it must be what Carter is doing doesn’t make it true.

weak..



that door swings both ways


obviously

All I said is something doesn’t add up, I haven’t said ‘this’ is what he’s doing like it’s a fact.

Well do you actually know what your saying then, or are you just trying to create something from nothing.

Even if Carter was appointed by the other SL chairmen to look into RFL expenditure. That doesn’t equate to him artificially raising the price of Bradford’s lease.

The fact Hudgell is involved as well points to more than just ensuring financial probity at the RFL. It points more to 2 club owners getting annoyed at what they perceive to be another club benefitting from RFL action while they are not.

It means that he has done exactly what he was charged to do by the other SL chairman, the fact Hudgell is involved does not automatically mean Carter has any other involvement as implied by the Bulls chairman.

I haven't decided anything i made an educated guess it's why MC was involved. The post is about what you said though, which was I just corrected you about the 2 people from Trinity that got in touch with the Bulls, which as it says in the article was about the use of the ground in 2017, and as the Bulls say it came to nothing because we sorted out rent with 88m.
Then you finished that post with this,
Not sure if you're just making mischief but it's clear from your own posts, you understand there was contact in 2017 about the use of the ground and then Chalmers has heard Carter and Hudgell are in for buying the lease, which as I say is against RFL rules anyway but you almost dismiss his job that was given near the start of 2018 to look into the RFL finances and where they've been spent, which £1.3 million was on the Bulls and rather think the worse it seems - bet you wouldn't if it was GH.

He can examine the details of any sale of the lease by the RFL as much as he wants.
If he has artificially raised the price of the lease (or attempted to) he has gone way beyond his remit.

Out of interest what was the market rate for the Odsal lease back when the RFL bought it, not the amount Hood said Bradford needed to survive but the actual market rate?

What if he's only raised the price to what its market value is?

Absolutely spot on. Carter being appointed to look into how RFL spend their money DOESN’T at all equate to his actions. Trying to act like this is a natural obvious course of action for someone in his position is BS.

Another poster said “would I be saying the same if it was GH”.....well would you and other Wakefield fans be defending these actions if it WASN’T Carter or if it was another owner doing it to Wakefield and Belle Vue? No you wouldn’t so all it seems to be is Wakey fans seeing Carter through rose tinted glasses and finding excuses for his actions.

Carter and Hudgell don’t determine the market value of something. The market does.