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| I think this, and other issues this year, raise the question of whether the RFL should set up some kind of Integrity Unit as the NRL have done. Obviously, it’s tempting for clubs to sweep player conduct under the carpet as much as possible and to “deal internally” with issues that arise. No club wants to be handing star players to their rivals for nothing. An independent Integrity Unit with the power to fine and suspend players for their conduct away from the field when it brings the game into disrepute would be a step in the right direction in my opinion. That suspension is then game-wide, so other clubs can’t benefit.
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| When is he gonna realise that he can't go out with his coked up mates anymore.
He doesn't seem to want to accept that he is a professional athlete and he cannot do what his mates wanna do.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"They sacked the rectum. Whether or not they have the stomach to sack a decent player remains to be seen.'"
Ask George Riley
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"Ask George Riley'"
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| Wigan know they will probably win the title next year if he gets himself back up to speed by playoff time
The guy clearly has something wrong with him and I think Wigan's best investment would be to send him to a psychiatrist, given this is twice in under a year he has nearly killed himself drinking
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Cryptic. Pity I'm not George Riley. Your skewed analogy might have made sense if I were.
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Cryptic. Pity I'm not George Riley. Your skewed analogy might have made sense if I were.
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| It's not hard to, you know, have some dates written down for your insurance and MOT.
It's also not too difficult to, you know, NOT drink and drive. Get a taxi, plan ahead if you know there may be alcohol.
These things don't happen by accident, it isn't unlucky. They happen to idiots who can't organise their life.
He'll have a gig. Whether it be Wigan or elsewhere, but when he retires his life is DONE. Drugs and jail await. See Alker. He will never learn.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"He'll have a gig. Whether it be Wigan or elsewhere, but when he retires his life is DONE. Drugs and jail await. See Alker. He will never learn.'"
His future looks very bleak once he’s finished playing. He has to sort his act out or he’ll have a very crappy life once RL is over.
His agent and family network should be guiding him down this route because life will hit him very hard once his playing days are over. Get signed up with a University or start investing some of your spare time learning new skills that will benefit you outside of the game. Hardaker doesn’t strike me as the kind of person that thinks about his future.
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| A lot of people have a lot of mates and different groups of mates they can knock about with, often you’ll see they come from good families (don’t have to be angels, just decent people).
The difficulty for people not like that [idiots is that they aren’t liked by many people so they have a small selection of co-idiot mates who nobody but that small group of idiots like. They often attract idiot girls who have no personality and wear too much makeup. These lads are also often from idiot families so they’re always surrounded by idiots and they can’t stop surrounding themselves with idiots.
Bred by idiots, grow up an idiot, formed into an idiot, act like an idiot, meet fellow idiots, breed their own idiots...
You can try to change an idiot but unless they drop all of the idiots from their idiot life they will never change and idiots can’t see that they need to change their life and remove themselves from the idiots to become a normal person.
Punishments, reprimands, threats, help, psychiatry, rehabilitation... try all you like to change an idiot but if they don’t remove themselves from the idiots none of these things will ever work!
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| So you’re saying Hardaker is an idiot?
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"A lot of people have a lot of mates and different groups of mates they can knock about with, often you’ll see they come from good families (don’t have to be angels, just decent people).
The difficulty for people not like that [idiots is that they aren’t liked by many people so they have a small selection of co-idiot mates who nobody but that small group of idiots like. They often attract idiot girls who have no personality and wear too much makeup. These lads are also often from idiot families so they’re always surrounded by idiots and they can’t stop surrounding themselves with idiots.
Bred by idiots, grow up an idiot, formed into an idiot, act like an idiot, meet fellow idiots, breed their own idiots...
You can try to change an idiot but unless they drop all of the idiots from their idiot life they will never change and idiots can’t see that they need to change their life and remove themselves from the idiots to become a normal person.
Punishments, reprimands, threats, help, psychiatry, rehabilitation... try all you like to change an idiot but if they don’t remove themselves from the idiots none of these things will ever work!'"
Absolutely.... And being an idiot is NOT a mental health illness.
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| We dont know if he is an idiot or if he really does have mental health problems so I am going to reserve judgement on him. Suffice to say, I hope he does manage to turn his life around, no matter what his issue is
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| Idiots have a negative effect & cost to society. It's in everyone's interest that Hardaker turns his life around.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/45703980
I bet he doesn't get the same stick as Zak and he's 31'"
Model professional of previous good character makes massive error of judgement. Verses serial miscreet, prone to drunken violence, drinking issues illigal drug use, not known to be a morally good character.
Not the same us it.
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Quote ="rollin thunder"Model professional of previous good character makes massive error of judgement. Verses serial miscreet, prone to drunken violence, drinking issues illigal drug use, not known to be a morally good character.
Not the same us it.'"
Model professional?
https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nr ... 8d5e532a67
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Quote ="rollin thunder"Model professional of previous good character makes massive error of judgement. Verses serial miscreet, prone to drunken violence, drinking issues illigal drug use, not known to be a morally good character.
Not the same us it.'"
Model professional?
https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nr ... 8d5e532a67
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Still about half a dozen misdemeanours away. From Hardaker, and Inglish is not a Uk citizen resident or played in our competition, so what's your point.
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Still about half a dozen misdemeanours away. From Hardaker, and Inglish is not a Uk citizen resident or played in our competition, so what's your point.
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| You actually said Model professional of good character and you're throwing a question back at me? Are you serious?
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| I honestly think the only thing that will help Zak is for it to go too far and he is either sent to jail or banned permanently from the sport. He has been hyped and hyped and so he thinks that he can behave as badly as he likes and no matter what he does it will all come good for him. Until that doesn’t happen he will continue to behave badly. When it does happen it will be too late.
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| Inglis banned for two games. Selected as captain for Australia and then banned.
Well done NRL. Players want to be idiots have to face some consequences.
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| Inglis has also lost the captaincy.
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| Quote ="Mash Butty"You actually said Model professional of good character and you're throwing a question back at me? Are you serious?'"
as i said, maybe Inglish has screwed up a couple of times, but not in the same league as Hardaker, struggling to think of a payer with such a rap sheet here or in Australia, maybe Julian o Neil in the 90's. and as i said Inglish is not a citizen of our country, does not live in our country, does not play in our competition, and is not subject to our laws. what Australia do with Inglish is there business, doubt anybody in NRl is concerned about what Hardhaker is up to.
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| Quote ="kobashi"When is he gonna realise that he can't go out with his coked up mates anymore.
He doesn't seem to want to accept that he is a professional athlete and he cannot do what his mates wanna do.'"
He's not known for being intelligent and it certainly shows.
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| Quote ="Trainman"Inglis has also lost the captaincy.'"
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