Are wigan and saints untouchable, i’d say Leeds have produced more over the super league era and more players in super league at other clubs than have come from anywhere else.

No, you started by insulting me.

If you can show a post where I have insulted you, I'll delete my account!

But of better overall quality?

Ever or currently?

Easier if it's current - for Wakefield, there are the 6 current frontline + 4 fringe first team squad. Then add Westwood, Dagger, Oates, Brough, so 14 currently in SL (there may be more that I have missed).

Leeds and Wigan will be a big list...

You started this with a cheap shot - now your blubing because folk are calling you out. Just keep your gob shut if you can’t take the pressure - no Trinity fan had an issue with Bradford until you started.

A few from Wakefield off the top of my head:

Gareth Ellis
Ben Westwood
Paul March
David March
Danny Brough
Aaron Murphy
Dale Ferguson
Chris Feather
James Batchelor
Keith Mason
Jordan Crowther
Chris Annakin
Max Jowitt
Tom Johnstone
Nigel Wright
Paul Handforth
Tom Haughey
Matt Wray
Steve Snitch
Rob Spicer
Lucas Walshaw
Matt Wildie
Dale Morton
All fall into the above category

No the first comment insulting anyone was from vastman and was aimed at me.

He does that a lot but spending you nights alone in a bed sit in Lupset and your days drinking frosty jacks and scratting cig ends off the floor outside the ridings centre will do that to you.

Believe me I know!

I didn’t accuse you of insulting me.

That’s all childish anyway and takes away from the thread.

Then Leeds are well above Saints.

You can't stop yourself can you!

You trolled me throughout, then trolled Vastman and went on and on.

Even in your last post, you abuse him (bedsit, booze, loner, fag ends), then say "I don't do that, it's childish".

People like you are killing RLfans!

Off my head from hudds (the club i'm around most)

Currently in 1st team squad

Mcintosh
Cudjoe
McGillvary
Leeming
English
Lawrence
Dickinson
Sam Wood
Jake Wardle
Innes Senior
Louis Senior
Ollie russell
sam Hewitt
Jon luke kirby

in the past:

chris Bridge
martin Gleeson
jake connor
matty dawson
marcus st hilaire
paul reilly
Eorl crabtree
phil joseph
andy raleigh
ryan hudson
adam walker
paul white
alex brown
greg johnson
josh johnson
jon grayshon
luke george
jacob fairbank

off the top of my head.

And a few more and let’s not forget those we gave a second chance too who went on to great things like a certain Ryan Atkins from Bradford and many others.

Let’s also not forget the enormous number who went onto have long careers in the championship with many of those clubs benefitting hugely.

All Trinity fans are well aware of the clubs failings through the years but producing talent has not been one of them.

I always struggle to think of Saints academy players - Wilkin, Grace...I always feel like they pick lots up from their neighbours.

Saints fans???

Nah, got to keep it current, otherwise it will become an impossible task.

Wilkin came from HKR where he played 25 first team games, so I suspect he is a product of their Academy.

Paul White and Matty Dawson were Wakefield products!

(Or did White com to Wfd from Hudds/Bulls??)

And Ryan Hudson I think!

wilkin signed from hull kr

cunningham
wellens
graham
roby
percival
makinson
lomax
swift
richardson
josh jones
ashurst
greenwood

theres loads !

Not sure how many games he played in HKR academy, but he played at least 1 season in Saints academy, so I'm sure they will claim him.

Pretty sure about half of Saints team will be academy players. They'll have plenty more around Super League like Ashurst with us. The main reason why it's generally only Leeds, Wigan and Saints that win much. Biggest teams with the best academies attract the best talent, win more trophies, make more money and attract the next lot of top class youngsters and the cycle repeats.

Sorry dawson was from Cas originally, white was definitely through Hudds as i watched him in the juniors there, thought hudson did too but memory may be playing tricks.

Yeah, didn't doubt that, just hard to picture them sometimes.

Wilkin, was brought in from HKR, but still went through the Saints academy - do you know how many games though?

It gets very confusing but Hudson was not a Wakefield product he started at Hudds though he definitely is from Wakefield - Stanley Rangers I think.

However Hudds have nicked plenty off us through the years.

Thought Matty Dawson was at Wakey first (could have been scholarship level...or could be wrong), but told he'd never make it - along with Greg Eden too.

Sorry but all three came through Huddersfield’s academy.

I’m not sure Huddersfield can claim Andy Raleigh as a home grown though.

He went to uni then started at Sheffield eagles didn’t he?

Dawson = Cas. Played for Wakefield College academy, which is what confused me.