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| Storm in a teacup - drunk rugby player opens his gob which has returned to the stoneage due to alcohol abuse
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I’d agree if he was just clearly drunk or off his face.
It’s the derogatory, sexist abuse that’s the issue here. Repeatedly calling someone a slut is completely unacceptable.'"
Totally agree with this. I think some people’s response to this is quite shameful, I’m sure they wouldn’t feel the same if it was their daughter/sister/mother that was on the receiving end of the sexist verbal abuse.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Totally agree with this. I think some people’s response to this is quite shameful, I’m sure they wouldn’t feel the same if it was their daughter/sister/mother that was on the receiving end of the sexist verbal abuse.'"
So, what action do you think should be taken ?
We could have a public hanging, if that would appease the holier than thou brigade.
His behavior is very poor but it's pretty similar to the 1000's of other weekend drunks and to pretend otherwise is to close your eyes to the world that we live in.
As I said, not good but i defy anyone who had been out in ant city centre not to have witnesses this and far worse every weekend of the year.
Plus, do you know what was said or done before the film starts ??
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| Not being reported on by local paper which may mean the girl in question or Macdonalds have made it a police matter? Think of Keys and Gray,David Moyes ect and that was without being as extreme as this.We had a fairly big split over the Minns situation on our page with half sympathetic and half saying tough own fault.Hull fans mainly saying it's not that bad would be saying different if it was Danny McGuire id hazard? For me i actually agree it isnt that bad as long as it was just drink inside him,but abusing a female in her workplace carries penalties nowadays and rightly so.Think nurses in a&e for example.Reckon the club will be trying to sort it behind closed doors but Macdonalds have a zero tolerance policy for offences against their staff. Great player no doubt but somebody should have just got him home and made him a butty
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| Whatever I think about what he said seems besides the point, he's not really in control of his mouth.
The point for me is that he's supposed to be a professional RL "Star" but he's there in McDonalds smashed out of his head.
Go out, have beer, socialize, relax whatever, but don't get utterly ****** 5h1tfaced, its unprofessional, disrespectful to the club, its fans, the players and ultimately the person(s) subjected to your drunken stupar.
Spending the night in a cell would have done him a favour.
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| ALBERT KELLY CAUGHT IN UGLY, DRUNKEN OUTBURST
By John Davidson Apr 22 2018 7:25PM
Former NRL player Albert Kelly has been filmed launching a drunken, foul-mouthed outburst in the UK.
The Australian five-eighth, who had spells with Cronulla and Gold Coast, is currently playing with Hull FC in the English Super League.
Kelly has been caught abusing a young McDonald's worker in a video shared on social media.
In the video, which can be seen above, he swears at an18 year old girl, calling her a "slut" and a "whore", and intimating he’ll put her on the concrete”
He also threatens a young male worker telling him “he’s not fu**ing about “
Kelly's club Hull FC has yet to comment publicly on the video. Inside Sport has contacted them for comment.
The 27-year-old has been linked to a return to the NRL in 2019.
He previously was sacked by the Sharks in 2012 and then had his contract with Newcastle terminated for smashing a lightbulb in a nightclub.
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| Plot thickens. Hull fans now reckon this footage is few year old? Who knows?
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Plot thickens. Hull fans now reckon this footage is few year old? Who knows?'"
What, all of them?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Totally agree with this. I think some people’s response to this is quite shameful, I’m sure they wouldn’t feel the same if it was their daughter/sister/mother that was on the receiving end of the sexist verbal abuse.'"
Genuine question... Was it sexist abuse?
I would wholeheartedly agree with the earlier post stating its derogatory. Does Kelly refer to the victim and imply it an outburst aimed at 50% of the population?
I think there are far too many holier then thou types chipping in on this thread blowing it out of proportion.
Don't get me wrong, its very poor form, but throwing in sexism is not evident from the footage available. What is seen is a drunk being a complete tool.
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| It's funny how Kelly is allowed mitigating factors, and Minns's excuse was shot down (rightly so too). Professionalism, both are lacking, they are.
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| Quote ="Willzay"It's funny how Kelly is allowed mitigating factors, and Minns's excuse was shot down (rightly so too). Professionalism, both are lacking, they are.'"
That's how it works over here. Franchise nabbing salary cap breaching challenge cup ineligible players are all figments of KR fans jealous minds
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| Quote ="craig hkr"Quote ="Willzay"It's funny how Kelly is allowed mitigating factors, and Minns's excuse was shot down (rightly so too). Professionalism, both are lacking, they are.'"
That's how it works over here. Franchise nabbing salary cap breaching challenge cup ineligible players are all figments of KR fans jealous minds'"
Hahaha, you're starting to sound like the pathetic loser that you clearly are!
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| Was meant tongue in cheek.Well done
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| Personally, if this is found to be recent, as in during his time with us, I'd want him cut loose. It's abhorrent behaviour, you can't justify it. Great player but clearly an idiot. As much as it would impact our season, I'd rather the club took the moral high ground which is something we've failed to do in the past.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Genuine question... Was it sexist abuse?
I would wholeheartedly agree with the earlier post stating its derogatory. Does Kelly refer to the victim and imply it an outburst aimed at 50% of the population?
I think there are far too many holier then thou types chipping in on this thread blowing it out of proportion.
Don't get me wrong, its very poor form, but throwing in sexism is not evident from the footage available. What is seen is a drunk being a complete tool.'"
Is it sexist abuse?
If he’s calling her a slut and a whore purely because she’s a woman then yes, it absolutely is sexist abuse.
If he’s calling her a slut and a whore because she’s slept with loads of his mates or for some other reason than she’s a woman, then it could be argued it’s not sexist.
Either way, it’s not acceptable. My money is in the first scenario though.
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| This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.'"
Your a cock !!!!
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| Has anyone seen Kelly’s wife .
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| Quote ="The Reason"Has anyone seen Kelly’s wife .'"
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.'"
Are you upset because lowly Leigh walloped Lifeless London 40 - 0?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.'"
Its Hull FC, Salford Red Devils and Leigh Centurions.
How old are you?
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Is it sexist abuse?
If he’s calling her a slut and a whore purely because she’s a woman then yes, it absolutely is sexist abuse.
If he’s calling her a slut and a whore because she’s slept with loads of his mates or for some other reason than she’s a woman, then it could be argued it’s not sexist.
Either way, it’s not acceptable. My money is in the first scenario though.'"
Firstly, I will reiterate, Kelly is bang out of order. No arguments.
What we don’t know is if anything was said ahead of the footage. My money is most definitely yes, given that someone felt the need to get a phone out to record it.
Has Kelly’s outburst purely driven that it’s a female who is serving, or would he have been a total tool if it had been a bloke.
Still, at a time there is drug cheats, drug users, people who have inflicted physical harm on others, Kelly’s is not the crime of the century and in fact not actually a crime. He has just made himself look a complete tool.
Written warning from his employer about his behaviour.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Firstly, I will reiterate, Kelly is bang out of order. No arguments.
What we don’t know is if anything was said ahead of the footage. My money is most definitely yes, given that someone felt the need to get a phone out to record it.
Has Kelly’s outburst purely driven that it’s a female who is serving, or would he have been a total tool if it had been a bloke.
Still, at a time there is drug cheats, drug users, people who have inflicted physical harm on others, Kelly’s is not the crime of the century and in fact not actually a crime. He has just made himself look a complete tool.
Written warning from his employer about his behaviour.'"
He’s used abusive language that is driven by the fact it’s a female who is serving him. The words ‘slut’ and ‘whore’ are most definately terms of sexist abuse.
He’s also threaten to assault her, which isn’t sexist.
There’s a difference between behaving like a tool and subjecting someone to sexist and derogatory abuse. His behaviour falls into the latter category in my view.
As to whether it’s a crime, I think that’s debatable too. Legally, assault is deemed to be when “a person performs an act by which they intentionally or recklessly causes another person to apprehend immediate unlawful violence”. I could easily argue that he assaulted her by saying he would “put her on the concrete”.
It’s also a criminal offence to use “threatening, abusive or insulting words within the hearing of someone likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress by them.” Again, I could argue that this is the case here.
So.... crime of the century? No. Potentially illegal? Yes.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"This is shocking behaviour unworthy of a hopeful Hull FC player. It is bringing the hopeful Hull FC brand into disrepute. If I was a hopeful Hull FC fan I would demand that Albert Kelly be immediately transferred to silly Salford or even lowly Leigh.'"
Or maybe the crime deserves a greater punishment, say the remainder of his career at Calamitous Crappy Catalans or Laughably Limp London or even Tragically Turgid Toulouse ?
What do you think Sir Kevin ?
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Or maybe the crime deserves a greater punishment, say the remainder of his career at Calamitous Crappy Catalans or Laughably Limp London or even Tragically Turgid Toulouse ?
What do you think Sir Kevin ?'"
What is turgid about Toulouse? Terrific Toulouse is an exciting team with a bright future.
Mind you, I wouldn't mind a sober Albert Kelly at courageous Catalans. He could lift the team into the top 8 and maybe higher.
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