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| Quote ="Willzay"I'd like to know the absolute direct correlation between the salary cap, and Marc Green not having enough money to run Bradford Bulls.'"
If the cap was abolished all the woes of our game would be history - apparently.
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| Not sure how the cap has anything to do with not paying your tax bill.
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| I don't think that wilfully missing the point that the SC clearly, and repeatedly, doesn't stop clubs going bust, nor promote good fiscal responsibility, is anything more than a waste of your own time.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Yep because no one has ever been able to gain promotion to SL apart from
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but apart from those 7 exceptions to the rule no club could possibly gain promotion.'"
You've missed off Wakefield, so that's 8, but things are different now. Then, all you had to do was be the best Championship side. Now, you've got to be also better than a Super League side.
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| Whats the betting that Toronto replace Bulls in the championship for 2017 ? I bet the RFL are tempted.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"You've missed off Wakefield, so that's 8, but things are different now. Then, all you had to do was be the best Championship side. Now, you've got to be also better than a Super League side.'"
3 administrations for Wakefield since promotion isn't it?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"3 administrations for Wakefield since promotion isn't it?'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"3 administrations for Wakefield since promotion isn't it?'"
And no relegations.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"You've missed off Wakefield, so that's 8, but things are different now. Then, all you had to do was be the best Championship side. Now, you've got to be also better than a Super League side.'"
Well said Slugger....
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| Lifelong rugby league fan with absolutely no sympathy for Bradford.
3rd time in administration is a disgrace as it just results in people who are owed money by the club from being cheated. That includes taxpayer's (that's me & you) because ultimately this 'administration' is too avoid paying a tax bill.
The relegation argument doesn't wash because despite being relegated Bradford were a big enough club and better financed than most teams in the championship so should be better placed to live within their means and compete at the top level in that division.
Relegation doesn't force you into administration but bad management and living beyond your means does.
I do have sympathy for the loyal fans who have stuck with them through these hard times, they deserve better.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"And no relegations.'"
Two cheats of the salary cap though isn't it?
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| Quote ="Code13"Two cheats of the salary cap though isn't it?'"
No. Racked up debts because we spent more than we could afford, rather than breaking the salary cap.
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I think we the fans are pathetically feeble when it comes to holding our governing body to account for their damaging actions. As I've said before they are instrumental each time in appointing new owners with half-baked plans and no money.
You can blame those owners of the bulls but we all need to keep in mind the organisation that keeps choosing them.
Another prospective owner references RFL culpability here: seriousaboutrl.com/championship/ ... vival-plan
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I think we the fans are pathetically feeble when it comes to holding our governing body to account for their damaging actions. As I've said before they are instrumental each time in appointing new owners with half-baked plans and no money.
You can blame those owners of the bulls but we all need to keep in mind the organisation that keeps choosing them.
Another prospective owner references RFL culpability here: seriousaboutrl.com/championship/ ... vival-plan
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| Quote ="Code13"Two cheats of the salary cap though isn't it?'"
Breaches are different to cheats. Buying players you know don't fit into the scheme to avoid relegation, and getting players to postpone payments to achieve this, is cheating. Having players on separate playing and non-playing contracts to keep under the cap is cheating.
Your cashflow not matching your spend isn't. It's just sloppy accounting. I don't think Wakefield have ever been found guilty of setting out to flout the rules. They've just ended up breaching the rules by default.
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"I think we the fans are pathetically feeble when it comes to holding our governing body to account for their damaging actions. As I've said before they are instrumental each time in appointing new owners with half-baked plans and no money.
You can blame those owners of the bulls but we all need to keep in mind the organisation that keeps choosing them.
Another prospective owner references RFL culpability here: seriousaboutrl.com/championship/ ... vival-plan'"
You should've been on here when York and Sheffield got into trouble. Plenty of finger pointing to the RFL from myself and couple of others. Alas this shall be the legacy the Fat Controller will leave behind.
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"I think we the fans are pathetically feeble when it comes to holding our governing body to account for their damaging actions. As I've said before they are instrumental each time in appointing new owners with half-baked plans and no money.
You can blame those owners of the bulls but we all need to keep in mind the organisation that keeps choosing them.
Another prospective owner references RFL culpability here: seriousaboutrl.com/championship/ ... vival-plan'"
You should've been on here when York and Sheffield got into trouble. Plenty of finger pointing to the RFL from myself and couple of others. Alas this shall be the legacy the Fat Controller will leave behind.
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"I think we the fans are pathetically feeble when it comes to holding our governing body to account for their damaging actions. As I've said before they are instrumental each time in appointing new owners with half-baked plans and no money.
You can blame those owners of the bulls but we all need to keep in mind the organisation that keeps choosing them.
Another prospective owner references RFL culpability here: seriousaboutrl.com/championship/ ... vival-plan'"
Didn't know the RFL controlled your accounts department? The fact the Bulls once again are trying to cheat the taxman and local businesses are down purely to the fact that Mr Green does not know that Expenditure should equal Income. It's got jack all to do with the salary cap and Jack all to do with the RFL. Green must have convinced them that he was fit and proper and presented a good case for the test.
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"I think we the fans are pathetically feeble when it comes to holding our governing body to account for their damaging actions. As I've said before they are instrumental each time in appointing new owners with half-baked plans and no money.
You can blame those owners of the bulls but we all need to keep in mind the organisation that keeps choosing them.
Another prospective owner references RFL culpability here: seriousaboutrl.com/championship/ ... vival-plan'"
Didn't know the RFL controlled your accounts department? The fact the Bulls once again are trying to cheat the taxman and local businesses are down purely to the fact that Mr Green does not know that Expenditure should equal Income. It's got jack all to do with the salary cap and Jack all to do with the RFL. Green must have convinced them that he was fit and proper and presented a good case for the test.
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| Cue the Bulls fans lambasting the RFL, every other club and every other fan for not helping them out !!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/38000693
BBC Breaking news.'"
Hardly breaking news as those ARE the rules for a club that goes into administration. It just seems that this time round it's getting the sensationalist treatment
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"I think we the fans are pathetically feeble when it comes to holding our governing body to account for their damaging actions. As I've said before they are instrumental each time in appointing new owners with half-baked plans and no money.
You can blame those owners of the bulls but we all need to keep in mind the organisation that keeps choosing them.
Another prospective owner references RFL culpability here: seriousaboutrl.com/championship/ ... vival-plan'"
It might be the case that the RFL merely chose the least bad option and had they not done so the Bulls may have ceased to exist. Just a thought.
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Quote ="Pumpetypump"I think we the fans are pathetically feeble when it comes to holding our governing body to account for their damaging actions. As I've said before they are instrumental each time in appointing new owners with half-baked plans and no money.
You can blame those owners of the bulls but we all need to keep in mind the organisation that keeps choosing them.
Another prospective owner references RFL culpability here: seriousaboutrl.com/championship/ ... vival-plan'"
It might be the case that the RFL merely chose the least bad option and had they not done so the Bulls may have ceased to exist. Just a thought.
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Cue the Bulls fans lambasting the RFL, every other club and every other fan for not helping them out !!'"
no not at all, just bad management by the owners
and it'd do you some good to let some of that aggression go, just because our attendances are better than yours after 2 periods of admin and being in the championship.
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| Cue the spiteful Giant with glee in his black heart and feigned indifference.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"It might be the case that the RFL merely chose the least bad option and had they not done so the Bulls may have ceased to exist. Just a thought.'"
If we had a choice of appointing another chancer to enable us to limp for 12 more months, or ceasing to exist and starting again in CH1, plenty would actually prefer the latter.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Cue the spiteful Giant with glee in his black heart and feigned indifference.'"
A touch of glee yes, we always told them horrible F****s at Odsal that the tables would turn eventually, if those nasty people are still following the club i hope they are suffering and are damn right miserable right now !!
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