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| Not going to comment on the actual decision as didn't watch the game but here is what the previous poster is after from section 11 - the tackle
BTW, law book is available for free from the RLIF website.
Verbal instructions 6. If any doubt arises as to a tackle, the Referee to should
resolve doubt give a verbal instruction to “play on” or shout “held” as
the case may be. If the referee is of the opinion that the
player in possession could not hear the “held” call before
passing or running off with the ball he should instruct the
player to play the ball at the point where the player was
when “held” was called unless it occurs after the fifth play
the ball in which case a handover will apply.
Speed essential 11. The play-the-ball must be performed as quickly as
possible. Any player who intentionally delays the bringing
of the ball into play shall be penalised.
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| Sounds like I missed the only bit of excitement. Fell asleep with about 10 to go.
Terrible game.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"
Speaking of Escare, I've said it before but if he wasn't French nobody would give a toss about him.'"
You're quite the fearless internet iconoclast, aren't you?
How many tries did Escare score last season?
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| Quote ="salford1970"Not going to comment on the actual decision as didn't watch the game but here is what the previous poster is after from section 11 - the tackle
BTW, law book is available for free from the RLIF website.
Verbal instructions 6. If any doubt arises as to a tackle, the Referee to should
resolve doubt give a verbal instruction to “play on” or shout “held” as
the case may be. If the referee is of the opinion that the
player in possession could not hear the “held” call before
passing or running off with the ball he should instruct the
player to play the ball at the point where the player was
when “held” was called unless it occurs after the fifth play
the ball in which case a handover will apply.
Speed essential 11. The play-the-ball must be performed as quickly as
possible. Any player who intentionally delays the bringing
of the ball into play shall be penalised.'"
Cheers
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| Quote ="moto748"You're quite the fearless internet iconoclast, aren't you?
How many tries did Escare score last season?'"
27.
He's terrible defensively, his kick returns are average, and he isn't that great coming into the line. He's a good support player and good but he's not as good as someone like Jamie Shaul or Johnny Lomax whom get half the praise
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"27.
=#FF0000He's terrible defensively, his kick returns are average, and he isn't that great coming into the line. He's a good support player and good but he's not as good as someone like Jamie Shaul or Johnny Lomax whom get half the praise'"
That quote could pretty much sum up Danny Maguire in his younger days. Remind me again how good [uHE[/u is!!!
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| Catalans are French, it's ok to cheat them out of points because they are French. It was ok to cheat them in the play-off semi-final last year because they're French.
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| As a Salford fan, I didn't think it was a penalty at the end. However it made up for the first Salford conversion which clearly went between the sticks but was waved away by the touch judges.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"27.
He's terrible defensively, his kick returns are average, and he isn't that great coming into the line. He's a good support player and good but he's not as good as someone like Jamie Shaul or Johnny Lomax whom get half the praise'"
'Terrible defensively' - did you miss his try saving tackle on Chris Hill last week, and on Hansen today?
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| Quote ="littlerich"40-40
That's middle eight Championship stuff isn't it?'"
Maybe if the Challenge Cup drawer is kind, you'll find out.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"As a Salford fan, I didn't think it was a penalty at the end. However it made up for the first Salford conversion which clearly went between the sticks but was waved away by the touch judges.'"
Two wrongs don't make a right. we can't just accept referees not knowing basic rules.
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| Of course it was a penalty,if a player moves off the mark and plays the ball it is a penalty so it stands to reason when a player is held and then decides to carry on he is penalised
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| Quote ="JonB95"we can't just accept referees not knowing basic rules.'" And I can't accept how two visually impaired ref assistants miss a ball that's gone between two sticks.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Of course it was a penalty,if a player moves off the mark and plays the ball it is a penalty so it stands to reason when a player is held and then decides to carry on he is penalised'"
Except that isn't the rule. If the player doesn't hear held the play is brought back for play the ball.
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| Quote ="theredshed"And I can't accept how two blind ref assistants miss a ball that's gone between two sticks.'"
Personally I couldn't tell , looked 50-50 but I trust two trained ref assistants over a dodgy angle on a malfunctioning TV feed.
Even so, you can't justify the penalty at the end by saying 'oh but he got one wrong against us before'. No excuse for that ineptitude in any case.
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| Is that the rule? I ask as i was always under the impression it was a foul to carry on and is referees discretion to call it back.
If it is set in stone i stand corrected
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| The rule was posted 1 page ago.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Is that the rule? I ask as i was always under the impression it was a foul to carry on and is referees discretion to call it back.
If it is set in stone i stand corrected'" Have you not watched any RL matches for the last 3 years?
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| Quote ="headhunter"Have you not watched any RL matches for the last 3 years?'"
I have watched and played the game for years.playing the game i have seen people penalised for carrying on after the tackle has been called complete.of course watching in recent years i have seen plays called back from time to time when it was 50/50 whether the player had heard the call but i saw that as the discretion of the ref himself.
I ask again is it set in stone.no need for the patronising comment
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| Quote ="JonB95"Personally I couldn't tell , looked 50-50 but I trust two trained ref assistants over a dodgy angle on a malfunctioning TV feed.
Even so, you can't justify the penalty at the end by saying 'oh but he got one wrong against us before'. No excuse for that ineptitude in any case.'" You said two wrongs don't make a right. Have you changed your mind to suit the argument?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"The rule was posted 1 page ago.'"
Just read this.
Still nothing conclusive reading that imo.You can still take from that,that if the ref thought player had heard the call or had clearly taken liberties he should be penalised which happened today.
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| Quote ="JonB95"Except that isn't the rule. If the player doesn't hear held the play is brought back for play the ball.'"
You thought Walne completing a tackle was a red card so not sure about your outrage for this one. As stated I was unsure the last penalty was correct at ths time however most neutrals in this thread seem to state it was correct so maybe I was wrong.
Should've been a 42-40 victory to Salford if the touch judges had done their job.
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| Quote ="Talent Spotter"You thought Walne completing a tackle was a red card so not sure about your outrage for this one. As stated I was unsure the last penalty was correct at ths time however most neutrals in this thread seem to state it was correct so maybe I was wrong.
Should've been a 42-40 victory to Salford if the touch judges had done their job.'"
Except I said it should have been a penalty (for reckless and dangerous technique), not a red card. I don't care what 'most neutrals' think, I care about what is correct.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I have watched and played the game for years.playing the game i have seen people penalised for carrying on after the tackle has been called complete.of course watching in recent years i have seen plays called back from time to time when it was 50/50 whether the player had heard the call but i saw that as the discretion of the ref himself.
I ask again is it set in stone.no need for the patronising comment'" Can you name a single instance in the last 3 years when a player was penalised for playing on after being tackled? The rule was changed for exactly that scenario, and yet Bentham decides to break all convention for the first time in three years, coincidentally when it's in the final minute of a Catalan game to deny them a victory.
And saying things like "Escare deserved to be penalised because he knew what he was doing, cheating Frenchman" is just embarrassing. TBH I don't know why Catalans continue to play in Super League, there's clearly a limit imposed by referees on how much they are allowed to succeed.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Can you name a single instance in the last 3 years when a player was penalised for playing on after being tackled? The rule was changed for exactly that scenario, and yet Bentham decides to break all convention for the first time in three years, coincidentally when it's in the final minute of a Catalan game to deny them a victory.
And saying things like "Escare deserved to be penalised because he knew what he was doing, cheating Frenchman" is just embarrassing. TBH I don't know why Catalans continue to play in Super League, there's clearly a limit imposed by referees on how much they are allowed to succeed.'"
LOL.
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