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| Oldham, Workington, Halifax,
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Which ones, specifically? You might be right up to a point but I suspect some would have experienced greater catastrophe had they stayed up.'"
Which ones would have experienced greater catastrophe if they had stayed up?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"And relegation is a destructive mostly catastrophic period for the relegated clubs. If you don't believe me ask Widnes, or Cas, or the multitude of other clubs who still haven't recovered from it.
Huddersfield didn't keep finishing bottom because they weren't being relegated, they were relegated because they weren't spending money and having to merge
If Huddersfield weren't relegated but Davy still invested and still brought in the names he did. Huddersfield would still be where they are now. If Huddersfield are relegated and Davy spends nothing, the probably don't exist right now.'"
id like to think widnes and cas have done pretty well since being relegated, they have rebuilt just like the giants did through through the franchise system.
giants were spending money when finishing bottom, just badly managed at that time! when we merged with sheffield, jon kear was appointed the coach and he couldnt believe the wages the giants players were getting compared to the sheffield ones!
like i say we didnt get away with zero damage finishing bottom those years, we lost a generation of fans through it... our fans are mainly old or very young, the 25 to 35 brackets badly missing.
but some of us stuck with them through all this and are happy fans nowadays knowing where we have come from, some of the new ones have very high expectation and we need to have a reality check sometimes and look at how far we have come in a decade or so.
on the overseas topic ... Giants currently have only 2 on their books.. dont think any SL can say that.. we made the decision to sign young and british a long time ago. recenty announced a full time academy too.
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| Quote ="brearley84" some of the new ones have very high expectation and we need to have a reality check sometimes and look at how far we have come in a decade or so.
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AKA ex 'Bull power' bandwagoners
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| Quote ="brearley84"id like to think widnes and cas have done pretty well since being relegated, they have rebuilt just like the giants did through through the franchise system.
giants were spending money when finishing bottom, just badly managed at that time! when we merged with sheffield, jon kear was appointed the coach and he couldnt believe the wages the giants players were getting compared to the sheffield ones!
like i say we didnt get away with zero damage finishing bottom those years, we lost a generation of fans through it... our fans are mainly old or very young, the 25 to 35 brackets badly missing.
but some of us stuck with them through all this and are happy fans nowadays knowing where we have come from, some of the new ones have very high expectation and we need to have a reality check sometimes and look at how far we have come in a decade or so.
on the overseas topic ... Giants currently have only 2 on their books.. dont think any SL can say that.. we made the decision to sign young and british a long time ago. recenty announced a full time academy too.'"
Widnes went bust. Cas publicly stated the damage done and the money lost after relegation. Not to mention the loss of their players. It took them years and nearly a million pounds from uncle jack.
Both clubs have needed a massive investment just to rebuild and only needed to rebuild because of the utter destruction wreaked by relegation.
I'd also remind you that the giants lost fans by being relegated as well.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Widnes went bust. Cas publicly stated the damage done and the money lost after relegation. Not to mention the loss of their players. [uIt took them years and nearly a million pounds from uncle jack. [/u
Both clubs have needed a massive investment just to rebuild and only needed to rebuild because of the utter destruction wreaked by relegation.
I'd also remind you that the giants lost fans by being relegated as well.'"
In this article: [urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/castleford/castleford-reveal-club-was-on-verge-of-collapse-1-6782108[/url
Steve Gill said '(Chairman) Jack (Fulton) had put more than £800,000 in over the space of four to five months'
If he put that much in in just a few months , god knows how much he's put in over the years.
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| can we get 'back on topic' please, Hull KR do not like signing English players....FACT, BUT WHY ?
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"can we get 'back on topic' please, Hull KR do not like signing English players....FACT, BUT WHY ?'"
most foreigners don't know where Hull is and by the time they find out, it's too late!
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| Quote ="brearley84"spot on.
the years of being the whipping boys and finishing bottom of SL those years was awful, we lost a generation of fans, alot went over to bullmania and leeds.
we were relegated and rebuilt the club, been upwards ever since through hard work and the dedication of ken davy and good coaches like tony smith and nathan brown.
the lost generation of fans is proving hard to get back but if you compare crowds with what they were in the 90's when crowds were in the hundreds we have come a long long way.'"
Have to say when we visited Huddersfield early in the 2002 season we were shocked at the complete lack of juniors watching them
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"can we get 'back on topic' please, Hull KR do not like signing English players....FACT, BUT WHY ?'"
Maybe it went of topic because no one cares?
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| Quote ="HKRSid"Maybe it went of topic because no one cares?'"
Yup, just ' outraged of Leeds ' and wind up of Lower Hutt
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| Maybe we should recruit on a model of Leigh RL ,and languish in the lower leagues for years on end and if we ever manage to win promotion we may end up winning just one game,ring any bells budgie boy,
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"can we get 'back on topic' please, Hull KR do not like signing English players....FACT, BUT WHY ?'"
What is it with Leigh fans do you still hold it against us for hammering you in the season we got promoted when you were the favourites to go up and we did it with a load of English players
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| Quote ="kitche"Maybe we should recruit on a model of Leigh RL ,and languish in the lower leagues for years on end and if we ever manage to win promotion we may end up winning just one game,ring any bells budgie boy,'"
Oi! , it was 2 and we wuz robbed against FC
No issue with how Rover have ' worked ' SL
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"What is it with Leigh fans do you still hold it against us for hammering you in the season we got promoted when you were the favourites to go up and we did it with a load of English players'"
I seem to recall us beating you 2-1 that year, including a Cup Final
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| Quote ="Starbug"I seem to recall us beating you 2-1 that year, including a Cup Final'"
And I seem to recall us spending the last 8 years since then in SL.
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| Quote ="Starbug"I seem to recall us beating you 2-1 that year, including a Cup Final'"
And I seem to recall us spending the last 8 years since then in SL.
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| Plenty of easy bites from East Hull on here.
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| Quote ="roversmad"And I seem to recall us spending the last 8 years since then in SL.'"
Did anybody question that?
Did HKR stop us from winning promotion that year?
I actually attended your final at Warrington that year, and cheered you on over Widnes, as I have said I've no issue with how you have worked to retain your SL place
So why the ' chip ' with me?
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| No issue with you Starbuck,in fact i have no issue with Leigh, we may be even enjoying each others company later on mate ,PS what was your other win ?
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| Quote ="kitche"No issue with you Starbuck,in fact i have no issue with Leigh, we may be even enjoying each others company later on mate ,PS what was your other win ?'"
London,Wakefield and Ganson robbed us against FC
2 wins, 1 draw
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| Quote ="roversmad"And I seem to recall us spending the last 8 years since then in SL.'"
with NO relegation.....amazing stuff !!
See Justin Poore has retired, which overseas player will replace him I wonder.......
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"with NO relegation.....amazing stuff !!
See Justin Poore has retired, which overseas player will replace him I wonder.......
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Budge, have HKR ever finished bottom of SL?
Would you take SL for Leigh with only a few brits in the team? , I would
And averages near 8 K?
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"with NO relegation.....amazing stuff !!
See Justin Poore has retired, which overseas player will replace him I wonder.......
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i think you will find P+R was still in operation when we entered SL
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| Quote ="Starbug"I seem to recall us beating you 2-1 that year, including a Cup Final'"
Yes your right but the main one was our 30-6 victory at home by the time we played at your place you were out of it
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