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| Even as a Leeds fan I admit that it could well be 'puff' that he says.....but could also be prick. Not 100% conculsive and bans based on lip reading....hmmm bit of dodgy area for me.
The key thing is that in the previous incident, James Child claimed to have heard it. If Silverwood hasn't heard it then it's surely got to be no go in terms of punishment hasn't it?
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| Quote ="BD"[urlhttps://vine.co/v/OBWHP9uvxvF[/url'"
And make your own conclusions.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I watched it back a couple of times as I was curious as to what caused the reaction. I couldn't see anything even remotely conclusive so unless there is another camera angle it will likely remain a mystery.'"
Flanagan had a twist at his ankle. The sort of thing this board wanted Jamie Peacock burned alive for a few weeks ago.
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| rollin thunder has been given a break for his earlier vitriol.
Any further posts of the same nature will be met with the same result, please remember to keep within the AUP.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"
And make your own conclusions.'"
How much =#FF0000flipping time do you have on your hands?
=#FF0000Keep it clean please! - BackrowSaint
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Even as a Leeds fan I admit that it could well be 'puff' that he says.....but could also be prick. Not 100% conculsive and bans based on lip reading....hmmm bit of dodgy area for me.
The key thing is that in the previous incident, James Child claimed to have heard it. If Silverwood hasn't heard it then it's surely got to be no go in terms of punishment hasn't it?'"
Agree
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| Quote ="craigizzard"How much f*cking time do you have on your hands?'"
Well a vine is 6 seconds long, at 0.5x speed that's 12 seconds. So 12 seconds.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Even as a Leeds fan I admit that it could well be 'puff' that he says.....but could also be prick. Not 100% conculsive and bans based on lip reading....hmmm bit of dodgy area for me.
The key thing is that in the previous incident, James Child claimed to have heard it. If Silverwood hasn't heard it then it's surely got to be no go in terms of punishment hasn't it?'"
I wouldn’t put my house on what he said, but if Silverwood didn’t hear anything, you would think that would be the correct action, however, Big Nige may just hire a bona-fide lip reader.
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| Quote ="Starbug"As good as Hardaker is, he has an attitude problem ( not the homophobic issue ) that will haunt him throughout his carreer if he doesnt grow out of it
It is almost as if he believes nobody is allowed to tackle him, my son had the same problem, he grew out of it by the age of 7'"
Do any other league players swear?
From the reaction on here I assume not.
As for all the expert lip readers claiming Zak definitely said something you need to google the "McGurk Effect". The only thing that is certain is that you *definitely* do not know what was said from a video
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| Bottom line is saints players were all around and in ear shot, so if he said what the witch hunters are claiming it'll be cited and the appropriate action taken.
For now people should stop the witch hunt. Innocent until proven guilty.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"How much =#FF0000flipping time do you have on your hands?
=#FF0000Keep it clean please! - BackrowSaint'"
He may be a computer whiz kid, it could have taken seconds .
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Bottom line is saints players were all around and in ear shot, so if he said what the witch hunters are claiming it'll be cited and the appropriate action taken.
For now people should stop the witch hunt. Innocent until proven guilty.'"
Damn, where is Matthew Hopkins when you need him .
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| Quote ="Omar Little"
As for all the expert lip readers claiming Zak definitely said something you need to google the "McGurk Effect". The only thing that is certain is that you *definitely* do not know what was said from a video'"
People interpret what they want to.
Opposition fans want to have a good moan, stick the boot in and have him banned, so they see p*ff. Leeds fans are the opposite so they see pr*ck. I must admit on first time viewing in real time with no pre conceptions i thought he said pr*ck.
No doubt though, the witch hunters will be demanding he be burnt alive at the stake, leeds banned from ever playing rugby league and the city of leeds nuked.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"
No doubt though, the witch hunters will be demanding he be burnt alive at the stake, leeds banned from ever playing rugby league and the city of leeds nuked.'"
Hhmmmmmm?
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"People interpret what they want to.
Opposition fans want to have a good moan, stick the boot in and have him banned, so they see p*ff. Leeds fans are the opposite so they see pr*ck. I must admit on first time viewing in real time with no pre conceptions i thought he said pr*ck.
No doubt though, the witch hunters will be demanding he be burnt alive at the stake, leeds banned from ever playing rugby league and the city of leeds nuked.'"
Ah, just the thought of a utopian ideal makes me smile.
Don’t worry about Zac though, he’s a Ponte lad & the practice of burning at the stake is fondly remembered by his Grandparents era.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Do any other league players swear?
From the reaction on here I assume not.
As for all the expert lip readers claiming Zak definitely said something you need to google the "McGurk Effect". The only thing that is certain is that you *definitely* do not know what was said from a video'"
Its not swearing, I didnt mention swearing or this particular incident, he has an attitude problem, it is apparent pretty much every time he plays
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| Quote ="BD"https://vine.co/v/OBWHP9uvxvF'"
F#*kin ballbag anyone? Yes I know Hardaker is but he could've said this?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"A bigger challenge than making a star out of someone kicked out of a world cup squad in disgrace who also happens to be a homophobe?'"
Just feel obliged to point out, that post appears to be a clear libelous statement.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Apart from he did not say anything and your just living twits'"
Judging from some of the threads you've started over the past couple of days you're having a bad time of it. you sound very angry.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Just feel obliged to point out, that post appears to be a clear libelous statement.'"
Unless said person can prove it? However that sort of thing isn't really supposed to be revealed on here!
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| Quote ="Gronk!"A bigger challenge than making a star out of someone kicked out of a world cup squad in disgrace who also happens to be a homophobe?'"
Libel potential.
Shall we start a witch hunt against you, see how you like it?
Let's see how much your life can be screwed over.
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Just feel obliged to point out, that post appears to be a clear libelous statement.'"
Was he kicked out of the world cup squad? Serious question, I thought he was?
He's also received a ban for using homophobic language and may be receiving another depending on what the RFL see and read in the officials match report.
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Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Unless said person can prove it? However that sort of thing isn't really supposed to be revealed on here!'"
But the burden would be on Gronk/rlfans...the claimant would only need to show the comment damages their reputation (which it clearly does)
Also any such defence would need to overcome prima facie evidence such as...
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/30 ... banned-for
Never mind not my comment or my website so who cares
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Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Unless said person can prove it? However that sort of thing isn't really supposed to be revealed on here!'"
But the burden would be on Gronk/rlfans...the claimant would only need to show the comment damages their reputation (which it clearly does)
Also any such defence would need to overcome prima facie evidence such as...
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/30 ... banned-for
Never mind not my comment or my website so who cares
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Quote ="Omar Little"But the burden would be on Gronk/rlfans...the claimant would only need to show the comment damages their reputation (which it clearly does)
Also any such defence would need to overcome prima facie evidence such as...
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/30 ... banned-for
Never mind not my comment or my website so who cares'"
If rlfans had a problem a mod would have removed the post by now.
Also, using homophobic language is homophobic in the same way using the N word is racist (which also usually always has an 'I'm not racist' statement later) would you not agree?
And would you also not agree that a 2nd potential homophobic incident involving the same player months after the first is not in the least, slightly dodgy?
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Quote ="Omar Little"But the burden would be on Gronk/rlfans...the claimant would only need to show the comment damages their reputation (which it clearly does)
Also any such defence would need to overcome prima facie evidence such as...
www.therfl.co.uk/news/article/30 ... banned-for
Never mind not my comment or my website so who cares'"
If rlfans had a problem a mod would have removed the post by now.
Also, using homophobic language is homophobic in the same way using the N word is racist (which also usually always has an 'I'm not racist' statement later) would you not agree?
And would you also not agree that a 2nd potential homophobic incident involving the same player months after the first is not in the least, slightly dodgy?
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