Whenever they play Leeds in a final for starters!

Hmmm

Should Leed's, Wigan and potentially Saints fans not be united in celebrating excellent youth production from all three sides?

Combined with that, should we all not be united against the fans of teams that have not historically produced any real volume of decent players, for sniping at those who have?

Just a thought?

Speaking of Warrington who was the last full English international they have produced??

Ben Harrison?

Played for Ireland i think?

Ben Currie won't be long off being the next. He looks a top player.

Did read somewhere he turned down the opportunity to train with the ETS recently though which is a worry. I think they mentioned he may turn out for Ireland iirc?

Such a shame you've met us in the Semi's recently then

Yeah lightyears, no other team could get near this.

Leeds 10 players out, six players backing up from exiles game on Friday, only super doper Wigan can do it and have any good young players, Wigan are so so good nobody can touch them.

They did only just about stop short of including the tea lady in the ten though.

I mean, Liam Hood...really? Vikery? Be better off with 12 men.

Can anybody tell me the 10 players who were out?

Ablett
Bailey
Leuluai
Delaney
McGuire
Sinfield
Watkins

are the first team players i see missing. Please dont tell me you are counting vickery in this? He is possibly the worst player i have seen at a top club. Not to mention the fact that he was an injury replacement for BJB who was back in tonight, so you had the better player.

We had 4 players backing up from friday too. Hood whilst not a regular would've made the team to cover for other injuries.

But as can be seen Wigan fans find it impossible to hand out praise to any other team but will happily w@nk themselves into a coma demanding everyone else praises them.

Stevie Ward makes eight guaranteed first-teamers, all of who played in last year's Grand Final.

Agree that's bad/impressive enough without Eddie exaggerating it to ten by including Vickery and Hood.

I dont think i have ever heard a wigan fan knocking leeds youth development so whats the problem?

The arrogance and ignorance stated by one of your fans that Wigan are lightyears ahead of everyone else and nobody could get close to that effort. But obviously instead of anyone congratulating another team for actually achieving such, the best is done to talk it down.

blah blah blah blah, 10 players..8 players...who cares and what does it matter? Both Wigan and Leeds produce a lot of quality players for their own benefit and the benefit of the league as a whole....do we really have to have this "my clubs better than yours" debate all the time!?! Its pathetic and pointless, when we should be congratulating both, and trying to encourage others to follow suit.

Warrington closed down their youth and A-team set-up in the mid 1990s when the club was skint to save money. Although short-sighted in player development terms, it did keep the club afloat and away from the sort of financial disasters from which Bradford, Salford and even Wigan to some extent were rescued by various backers. It takes years to resestablish a good youth policy. This is clearly coming through now though with the likes of Riley, Harrison, Currie, Dwyer, Evans, Cooper etc. I'd sooner have five or six SL class players developed than one England selection, especially as some England selections still beggar belief. Although not a Warringtonian, Lee Briers developed into the player he is at Wire, and never got a decent shout at GB or England while all and sundry lesser talents took up the half back slots until he gave up and declared for Wales.

Who were the 10 out for Wigan and how many of those that played were playing their 2nd game in 3 days?

Leeds' production line:

Ben Jones-Bishop
Kallum Watkins
Ryan Hall
Danny McGuire
Rob Burrow
Paul McShane
Jamie Jones-Buchanan
Carl Ablett
Kevin Sinfield
Stevie Ward
Ryan Bailey
Chris Clarkson
Richard Moore
Richie Mathers
Mark Calderwood
Chev Walker
Matt Diskin
Danny Ward
Nick Scruton
Luke Burgess
Ashley Gibson
Danny Williams
Jodie Broughton
Jordan Tansey
Luke Gale
Lee Smith
Garreth Carvell
Adrian Morley
Ryan Atkins
Ewan Dowes
Terry Newton
Francis Cummins
Jason Netherton
Scott Murrell


just off the top of my head

Add joe mellor to wigans. Another good game tonight

It's all just banter mate.

Good win for Leeds that with plenty missing and like you say a few backing up from Friday. The depth of your squad looks strong on that performance. To say there was so many players missing it didn't have the feel of a reserve side by any stretch.

Good for the game to see more youngsters making their debuts.

Sam Tomkins
Pat Richards
Blake Green
Matty Smith
Mike McIllorum
Liam Farrell
Sean O'loughlin
Ben Flower
Paul Prescott
Gil Dudson (before people claim he isnt a first choice player he has played every game that he has been fit for this season bar 1, salford at home, although this may be down to Prescott being injured most of the year)

I think the major thing about the Wigan game was that it was away from home (Widnes seem to be a different beast at home compared to away. home record played 9, 8 points. away played 9, 4 points)

As well as this Wigan were missing 1,6,7,9 &13. the whole spine of the team. Leeds had 1+9. they also had burrow at 7 who, despite playing 9 quite a lot, has played most rugby at 7. Leeds seem to play a few different players at 13, one of which was playing last night.

It was a good achievement by Leeds, they clearly have a good squad. I dont get why people have their knickers in a twist, no wigan fan ever claims they dont have a good youth setup. But I do think playing away with 18-20 year olds at 1,6,7,9 & 13 is a bit more impressive.

Crikey, that was even more than i'd hoped for. Well done

Can anyone confirm that jimlav is actually Phil Clarke?

All this thread proves is both Wigan [iand[/i Leeds have great home grown talent in their squads.

for their game, which I think, if we're going to get technical about it, is a superior achievement. From what I saw last night Leeds only had 6 & 13 missing.

It's much easier to cover players in the 3/4s and the forwards than it is in essential ball playing roles.

Full credit to Leeds though, they were clinical last night.