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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Well I was in the north stand from 6:30 and never saw or heard fireworks being thrown. Stood in north stand all match didnt see no trouble at all it was only when I was on line when I got home that trouble was mentioned Si can't have been that bad. Cas fans trying to get WTRLFC fined I reckon.'"
From the video footage it looks like the fireworks were outside a pub and the bottles were towards the back of the stand.
The club also needs to stick some lights onto that roof by the looks of things
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I was there and it was both supporters causing trouble, not one set only.
Funny how there was trouble at Cas V Hull KR, Cas V Hull FC, Wakefield V Cas and yet some Cas supporters
seem to think there fans were totally blameless in all games!
Wakefield V Hull KR was played a month or so ago and was attended by a similar crowd to the one last
week and not a hint of trouble. Funny that eh?'"
I'm not saying both supporters weren't involved. But it's a futile argument - Cas fans believe Wakey fans threw the first bottle, Wakey other way. I didn't see. But the one I did see came from the Wakey end and the Cas fans retaliated. Both as bad each other.
The fact remains, however, that it shouldn't have even been in that position in the first place. An unnecessary divide was created and the said divide was poorly stewarded/policed.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"From the video footage it looks like the fireworks were outside a pub and the bottles were towards the back of the stand.
The club also needs to stick some lights onto that roof by the looks of things
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So a firework was thrown outside a pub not in the ground, which pub was it because they're all closed in Belle Vue apart from the conny club
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| Quote ="Gronk!"From the video footage it looks like the fireworks were outside a pub '"
Which pub I know most of them in wakefield I can check the CCTV that is outside most of them , what day was the video taken (for sure) how do we know they "WERE" wakefield fans that through them?
Ever heard of staged viral videos?
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| Reading this you'd think world war 3 had broken out. It was such a big issue i didn't even notice anything and i was maybe 150 meters away! And having spoken to someone who was in that area of the stand the incident started with both sets of fans chanting at each other. A few bottles were thrown from BOTH sides and a handful of fans from either club got ejected from the stadium. And that was that. Punish the individual culprits and put plans in place to ensure it doesn't happen again. End of story.
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Which pub I know most of them in wakefield I can check the CCTV that is outside most of them
, what day was the video taken (for sure) how do we know they "WERE" wakefield fans that through them?
Ever heard of staged viral videos?
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You can't see the pub name but a couple of the people involved do post on here so see if they post.
They were in Wakefield shirts which is quite the giveaway though
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| Isn't it nice to see a Fev bashing when there is a chance.
I've seen Fev home & away for the last 17 years and only heard about 3 incidents and 1 of those is unproven as to what has happened. As for the incident with Fax in the NRC semi final, many fans got life bans, security and stewarding has improved considerably since then. What you hear and read on these forums are so far from the truth it occasionally boards on slanderous.
The old place will be almost full and have a tremendous atmosphere infront of the sky cameras.
Cas should win and well, but it's a local derby in the cup - anything can happen.
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| Quote ="Chris.Taylor"Isn't it nice to see a Fev bashing when there is a chance.
I've seen Fev home & away for the last 17 years and only heard about 3 incidents and 1 of those is unproven as to what has happened. As for the incident with Fax in the NRC semi final, many fans got life bans, security and stewarding has improved considerably since then. What you hear and read on these forums are so far from the truth it occasionally boards on slanderous.
The old place will be almost full and have a tremendous atmosphere infront of the sky cameras.
Cas should win and well, but it's a local derby in the cup - anything can happen.'"
Two of my favourite teams and a "real" local derby. I expect Cas to come out on top but you never know. I hope its remembered for the stuff on and not off the pitch.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"They were in Wakefield shirts which is quite the giveaway though
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Yeah pretty conclusive, stronger proof than DNA
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| Quote ="Cecil B"When we came out of the ground at the end we were shocked by the number of police outside and passed comment about it not being a football match!'"
This really gets my back up the whole "its not football" thing, I am a season ticket holder at Liverpool that goes home and away, and I can honestly say that I have seen far, far more trouble in the last 5 years at rugby league games than I have football.
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| Im not saying you're wrong but to go to wigan i don't have to be escorted by police to the ground as an away fan, unlike certain soccer sides
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| Fully and Gronk need to confir before posting.
One is saying that Cas need to be segregated at Fev and the other is saying that because Wakefield segregated they caused the trouble.
Which is it?
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| Now page 7 and most of the Fev / Cas thread is about Wakey / Cas!
Can't beat a cheap shot at Fev then keep it going by digressing a smidgeon
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Which pub I know most of them in wakefield I can check the CCTV that is outside most of them
, what day was the video taken (for sure) how do we know they "WERE" wakefield fans that through them?
Ever heard of staged viral videos?
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Right, To put an end to any Wakefield BULL!
We were in the Woodhill/Woodhouse WMC(LINNET) in Normanton, Having some friendly banter with the Wakefield lot in there, When 1 took exception, We were watching the Wigan Vs Saints game, And as soon as it ended we left. This one guy followed us outside, And started firing fireworks out towards the main road, There were kids over the road, And one hit me on the leg, No real damage, Enough to leave a mark, And burn the hairs of my leg. To stop the trouble escalating, We carried on walking. And laughed it off. This was about 4.30pm. This guy was spotted in the ground just before kick off, And was later pointed out to the stewards. These fireworks were obviously heading with him to the ground.
I have made the RFL and Wakefield aware of this. Its fact, And i hope the scumbag is banned for life. Not for aiming at me, But there were kids over the road. Idiot.
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| So is this the incident that was video'd to which "Sherlock Gronk" has said he's seen and has been forwarded to the RFL as full and conclusive evidence that all wakey fans are mindless thugs?
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| Quote ="financialtimes"Yeah pretty conclusive, stronger proof than DNA
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Well I'm guessing the wakey fans who have been talking about Cas fans throwing bottles are using the same method to conclude that they were supporting Cas.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Fully and Gronk need to confir before posting.
One is saying that Cas need to be segregated at Fev and the other is saying that because Wakefield segregated they caused the trouble.
Which is it?'"
There is a massive, significant difference between the two grounds and you well know it.
Had Wakefield got another stand at the opposite end of the ground this would not have happened, simple as.
Featherstone have allocated a stand each so both sets of fans are going to be reasonably happy.
Sticking both sets of fans at the same end with a divide down the middle, is a different kettle of fish as you well know.
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| Quote ="Fully"There is a massive, significant difference between the two grounds and you well know it.
Had Wakefield got another stand at the opposite end of the ground this would not have happened, simple as.
Featherstone have allocated a stand each so both sets of fans are going to be reasonably happy.
Sticking both sets of fans at the same end with a divide down the middle, is a different kettle of fish as you well know.'"
So segregation is a stand each and the home stand is not allowed to be better than the away stand is that how it works? Cas should have gone we they were first told east stand lower, north stand home only and no problems
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| Quote ="Dettoriman"Right, To put an end to any Wakefield BULL!
We were in the Woodhill/Woodhouse WMC(LINNET) in Normanton, Having some friendly banter with the Wakefield lot in there, When 1 took exception, We were watching the Wigan Vs Saints game, And as soon as it ended we left. This one guy followed us outside, And started firing fireworks out towards the main road, There were kids over the road, And one hit me on the leg, No real damage, Enough to leave a mark, And burn the hairs of my leg. To stop the trouble escalating, We carried on walking. And laughed it off. This was about 4.30pm. This guy was spotted in the ground just before kick off, And was later pointed out to the stewards. These fireworks were obviously heading with him to the ground.
I have made the RFL and Wakefield aware of this. Its fact, And i hope the scumbag is banned for life. Not for aiming at me, But there were kids over the road. Idiot.'"
So a firework was thrown at a cas fan outside a pub in a town outside of Wakefield 3 hours before kick off and cas fans email the RFL blaming WTRLFC for this, pathetic if you ask me. How can WTRLFC be responsible for people who drink in pubs in towns outside of Wakefield?
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"So segregation is a stand each and the home stand is not allowed to be better than the away stand is that how it works? Cas should have gone we they were first told east stand lower, north stand home only and no problems'"
Where the hell did I say all that?
No, it wouldn't have been segregation in a sense if both clubs had an area each. Wakey wouldn't have needed to make any statements, there would have been no pre-match arguments etc and fans would have been free to go where they like. But both clubs would have no doubt congregated at either end, if there were two stands.
Wakey could do that - but only if they produce tickets to fans stating East Stand standing only.
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| Reading this thread i feel really positive about a groundshare between Cas & Wakey.
Gotta happen, hasn't it?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Reading this thread i feel really positive about a groundshare between Cas & Wakey.
Gotta happen, hasn't it?
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They are welcome to share at our new community stadium.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"So a firework was thrown at a cas fan outside a pub in a town outside of Wakefield 3 hours before kick off and cas fans email the RFL blaming WTRLFC for this, pathetic if you ask me. How can WTRLFC be responsible for people who drink in pubs in towns outside of Wakefield?'"
Has it occurred to you that wtrlfc might want these scumbags identified so they can be banned and charged by the police before they hurt someone? It doesn't matter who these idiots support they need stopping and I'm sure you club agrees, where it happens doesn't make much difference.
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| Quote ="bren2k"They are welcome to share at our new community stadium.
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And you know your welcome to share at Glasshoughton.
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| Big crowd, great tussle and some great tries from the underdog.
Yep, PR disaster this.
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