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| Going into administration does not mean the death of a club. 500k taken to prop up a failed company for a few more years seems so dumb to me. Why can't we lose the Bulls from SL? Not as big a club as they're made out to be. Away following is average, home support propped up by v cheap tickets, local juniors ok at best. Big city but NOT a particularly big club. They shouldn't die but they are nothing like as important as being made out.
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| On top of the financial trouble, we can only name an 18 man squad for monday due to the injuries.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"Going into administration does not mean the death of a club. 500k taken to prop up a failed company for a few more years seems so dumb to me. Why can't we lose the Bulls from SL? Not as big a club as they're made out to be. Away following is average, home support propped up by v cheap tickets, local juniors ok at best. Big city but NOT a particularly big club. They shouldn't die but they are nothing like as important as being made out.'"
Shithead, ban etc.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"On top of the financial trouble, we can only name an 18 man squad for monday due to the injuries.'"
No academy at Bradford to fill the squad with?
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"No academy at Bradford to fill the squad with?'"
They must have give it up to help save money
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Fully agree, I look forward to you enthusiastically insulting all the posters on here who actively call for the London club to fold.
I suspect I might have a long wait though.'"
You will. I'll insult them but if I'm going to get enthusiastic about it I'll really have to feel it.
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| Quote ="j.c"They must have give it up to help save money'"
Olbison, Addy, Whitehead, Burgess already in squad.
O'Brien, McAvoy, Murphy, Crookes, Rossi injured. Southernwood out on loan. Bateman suspended.
How many teams have more than a handful of youngsters who would be ready for 1st team action.
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| But 19th man does not play? Why can't one be named?
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| My memory may be failing me, but when Wakefield had trouble in 2000/2001, it was the catalyst to give first team action to both Gareth Ellis and Ben Westwood. The experience didn't do those two any harm, and the players which didn't make the grade, wouldn't have done whether they made their debuts then or not. (Nathan Batty, Rob Spicer et al went on to careers in the National Leagues.)
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| Bradford are important as they have shown they can be a big club, the supporter base is there and the game can't afford to lose major cities and replace with minor ones from a public/media/corporate perspective.
Will be very sad if we lose Bradford from SL and I can't see the RFL allowing it (if they have any sense)
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Bradford are important as they have shown they can be a big club, the supporter base is there and the game can't afford to lose major cities and replace with minor ones from a public/media/corporate perspective.
Will be very sad if we lose Bradford from SL and I can't see the RFL allowing it (if they have any sense)'"
What a load of crap. No-one should have a permanent seat in SL. Other clubs who've hit the financial wall in RL have had to cut their cloth and deal with the consequences. I thought SL was supposed the be the cream of the crop? Going a bit sour isn't it?
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| I said at the time of the announcement that its a load of poop. Layest they could have the money was friday any later they would be gone. Suddenly they are able to extend it to monday?? Makes you wonder if they were just after the paniking fans money? And where will the other £500k that is needed by the end of the month gonna come from?
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| Quote ="littlerich"What a load of crap. No-one should have a permanent seat in SL. Other clubs who've hit the financial wall in RL have had to cut their cloth and deal with the consequences. I thought SL was supposed the be the cream of the crop? Going a bit sour isn't it?'"
Going very sour. It's looking increasingly like you need a wealthy owner to have a seat at the top table. Your point is right, of course. It's up to Bradford to sort its own problems out, and if we can well fine. If we do not, then there can be no complaints if we lose our seat. We have no God-given right to it.
You would just hope that some other club with a rich owner ready willing and able to bankroll his club for the long term would be in a position to take the seat.
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| so, lets say Bradford have counted out £500,000 by tomorrow morning, they give this to the taxman, and that bill is cleared.
They then need another half mill by when? end of April?
who do they owe this 2nd sum to? surley players wages will be affected.
The way i see it (if we are all been told the truth by the bradford bod) Bradford are likely to pay off the taxman, but then have a whole new problem of finding money to 'run the club' in general, if they dont get a big money investor then what are the options?
Administration?
if this happens the club will have to sell all their prize assets (players), and if you can barely put a team together now, where will this leave your playing squad? unable to compete?
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folding? (not for a second do i think this will happen)
it still sounds as if you are in a very serious situation, and i hope the people that attended Odsal on friday and thought they might have secured the Bulls' future, dont when maybe asked for more money say
"we've done our bit already, on your own now Hood!"
Adeybull, you seem in the know?
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| Having only started to follow the game in my mid forties five years ago and been a London season ticket holder for the last four I'm not imbued with the history of the sport like others but also have a more detached view of Bradford's struggle for survival. I certainly don't wish the club or it's supporters any ill will but should they go bust and have to reform would the game be worse off? As a London supporter I regularly read and I am told that there shouldn't be a team in London due to low crowds etc. and that there are heartlands teams (e.g. Halifax / Featherstone) more deserving of a franchise that would bring home gates of 10,000 and away support of 1,000+ and make the sport stronger. If Bradford go then surely one of these clubs that are in position to replace London can replace Bradford next year. In two years time London will lose their franchise (unless there is a miraculous turnaround) and a reformed, regrouped Bradford given its significant and passionate following will be in a strong position to bid for a franchise. Am I being over simplistic?
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| Quote ="WhittonQuin"Having only started to follow the game in my mid forties five years ago and been a London season ticket holder for the last four I'm not imbued with the history of the sport like others but also have a more detached view of Bradford's struggle for survival. I certainly don't wish the club or it's supporters any ill will but should they go bust and have to reform would the game be worse off? As a London supporter I regularly read and I am told that there shouldn't be a team in London due to low crowds etc. and that there are heartlands teams (e.g. Halifax / Featherstone) more deserving of a franchise that would bring home gates of 10,000 and away support of 1,000+ and make the sport stronger. If Bradford go then surely one of these clubs that are in position to replace London can replace Bradford next year. In two years time London will lose their franchise (unless there is a miraculous turnaround) and a reformed, regrouped Bradford given its significant and passionate following will be in a strong position to bid for a franchise. Am I being over simplistic?'"
It certainly seems more sensible than the hard working public of Bradford forking out a million quid to keep a failed owner in charge of their club.
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| Reality is we don't have a big city club waiting in the wings. Our game suffers as is with a massive perception problem about it being a minority sport, take out the cities and replace with small towns and it becomes a shed load harder to get corporate support, media deals etc etc.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Reality is we don't have a big city club waiting in the wings. Our game suffers as is with a massive perception problem about it being a minority sport, take out the cities and replace with small towns and it becomes a shed load harder to get corporate support, media deals etc etc.'"
A bit like a rowing race between two universities? Now that would be a minority sport. There's no way something like that would get 3 hours prime time on BBC or massive corporate support.
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"A bit like a rowing race between two universities? Now that would be a minority sport. There's no way something like that would get 3 hours prime time on BBC or massive corporate support.'"
Nothing to do with a large number of Ex students from these two institutions running the BBC and half the Corporations in the country is it.
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| Quote ="chubbs1981"Nothing to do with a large number of Ex students from these two institutions running the BBC and half the Corporations in the country is it.'"
Quite, and yet some would have you believe the old boy network doesn't exist.
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| Serious question,
How long will the taxman allow bradford to collect these pedges? i'd be surprised if they could get even 90% in within a couple of weeks and there's bound to be people who've pledged but wont pay.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Serious question,
How long will the taxman allow bradford to collect these pedges? i'd be surprised if they could get even 90% in within a couple of weeks and there's bound to be people who've pledged but wont pay.'"
Depends how much of the amount has come from corporate donations of larger denominations.£300k could be from 50 businesses and the rest could be from 6,000 fans. So, people like Steve O and corporate donors will probably pay up immediately - so this may calm the taxman.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Reality is we don't have a big city club waiting in the wings. Our game suffers as is with a massive perception problem about it being a minority sport, take out the cities and replace with small towns and it becomes a shed load harder to get corporate support, media deals etc etc.'"
Hate to pi55 on your cornflakes, but it is a Minority Sport.........too many clubs trying to be Man Utd and Bradford being a good example of this..
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| The 500k has been pledged as just confirmed by Sadler. Full story in the paper tomorrow as well as confirmation from the Bulls.
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| Bradford have been living on borrowed Time for years, time to step a side and be replaced by proper RL club like Halifax, featherstone, Leigh etc, let's face it if we hadn't of nicked fans off Huddersfield and vertuelly put teams like fax and the one true RL club representing bradford, the mighty cougers, out of business we would have no more than 300 deprived souls at odsal every week, borrowed time I tell yer!!!
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