Well, much has been discussed about this. I think the club have spent so much time selling the tickets to Youngsters, that they can't go to the games by themselves. I think that in the next 10-15 years, our away following will begin to increase - now that's forward planning

. I think with less games on Sky and more games on Sundays, we'll see an increase of 2-3,000 which would be excellent. 7,000+ season tickets sold so far, so I'll be happy with another 500 sold to get a good 7,500 base of supporters with at least 11-12,000 for big games.

What was the average last year? I think maybe 12,000 for the new stadium . Crowds of 14,000 at least is a bit optimistic in my opinion bearing in mind that St Helens is a small town.Any way we will see soon.

They've already sold 8,000 season tickets (which is more than we averaged at Widnes).
I would suspect a shiney new stadium would not only boost Saints fans' attendence, but the novelty will boost away crowds for at least a season (for instance, I've already convinced myself not to miss our away trip to Salford).

I'd say Wire's would increase with Widnes coming up and the increased capacity that's 3 full houses so an extra 4 thousand on the Wigan Saints games plus the full house of Widnes, possibly more fans from Salford given they should attract more with the new stadium might translate in to more travelling?

I'd say probably 5 full houses for Wire this year and probably all of them over 10k.

It will be infront of the south terrace so will lose over a thousand which will take it lower than 10K, not sure how much the south terrace actually held i thought maybe 1200, could be wrong

Wakefield averaged just short of 7,000 last year
With Belle Vue's upgrade, a more competitive team a fingers crossed some good news about a new stadium we could possibly break the 7,500 average.

Also Trinity have increased season ticket sales from an awfull 600+ last year to almost 4,000 so far with the Xmas and pre season rush yet to come.

When we was at KR we averaged 11K,we sold roughly 5K season tickets and so far we have hit 8K+,we may be a small town but I reckon we will average 14K no problem,but as you say we will see soon enough.

What's been done?

Serious question, not looking to take the mick.

New stand roofs being built on the big northern terrace, a western terrace roof, more covered seating, new bars, new food outlets upgraded toilet facilities, generally leaned up and made safer and mor accessible.

That's just forth fans there's mor gone on in terms of facilities for teams, physios, warm up areas ECT..

Just to make everyone mor comfortable and mor welcome ahead of our proposed move to a new stadium.

Dragged into the 20th century, eh?

Is that all ready for 2012?

Sounds good. A roof on that away end sounds just up my street! Should create a better atmosphere and has the added bonus of keeping us dry.

All ready by end of January so yes.

That makes you better than Grade A Leeds.

That might result in better away fan attendances for one thing. It's always been a pig to get away from Wigan after a Friday night game, although, I was pleasantly surprised last season to see that the rail companies had finally put a later service on, meaning that it *was* actually possible to watch the entire game and still get back to Warrington afterwards. Providing that's still the case next season, I will again be parking at Warrington Bank Quay and then using the train, driving out of Wigan on a Friday evening is one of the most horrific away day experiences I've been through.

Wigan - 16k
Leeds - 15.5k
Saints - 14.5k
Hull - 13.5k
Bradford - 13k
Wire - 12k
Catalans - 9.5k
Hull KR - 8k
Huddersfield - 7.5k
Widnes - 7.5k
Castleford - 7k
Wakefield - 7k
Salford - 6.5k
London - 3.5k

Total average - 10k

I'm intrigued to see which team is the next to break the 10k mark.

I think Catalans will be so close, but need a bigger ground to get them bumper crowds to help them push over the five-figure mark.
Rovers need the extension finishing, and I reckon they'll be straight up to it. The East Stand extension will add 1k average alone (it will sell out), but whether it takes away from the rest of the ground we won't know. But better facilities will see an increase in away support.
Not quite sure what else Hudds can do to increase their crowds. They've already got dirt cheap tickets and a class facility. They must already be close to potential.
Widnes will get some great crowds for their return, but whether they can build on it with a successful side in the future will remain to be seen.
A new ground for Cas and/or Wakey will see them go close, if not break it.
Salford and London have little to no chance IMO.

not sure better facilities will see much of an increase in away support - look at us in the KC, we get some pityful turnouts from some visiting teams and we offer a dry seaten stadium with a great view from anywhere. its more geographical position along with silly kick off times

Youre spot on there - for both Hull teams actually.

Me and the old man like to have a few beers and a steak before the game. That means driving is a no no. That means if a game kicks off at 8pm Friday night, it is impossible to get back to St Helens that night. I imagine its a similar story for Wigan, Warrington, Widnes and Salford fans. Sunday 3pm is OK for away supporters to travel to Hull, but I reckon Saturday teatime would get the best attendances from this side of the pennines.

Clearly its not an option to change kick off times around though as that messes up the home support, which is more important, obviously!

no excuse next year then, hull fc home games are sundays now, 3.00pm kick off, unless sky change it of course

Giants are striving for the 10k average...sold 7k for the coming season so thats going the right way but still long way to go

dirt cheap tickets?? to buy an adult side on season ticket now its £210.... with the early bird offer i got mine for £100 this year.

surely we arent the only club doing offers??? how do we compare?? how much did you pay for yours at your clubs?

Wakefield approaching 4,000 season tickets sold with records showing that over 500 of last years season ticket holders havnt bought yet.

A good start to the season and (fingers crossed) positive news from the stadium Public Inquiry could see a surge in interest.

I'd be very happy for the Giants to do it! They've done very well on the pitch over the past few years and they deserve a decent crowd behind them.

Cheapest adult seat at Wigan (South Stand) - Renewal £197, Early Bird - £211.
No offers.

Season Tickets sold so far: 9K

We don't get amazing turn outs, but they were far better than they were in the Boulevard days.