Not a detail change - never has either ever been said, but just 'planning consent'. Only the deluded Cas posters on here could have ever believed that it meant OPP!

Anyone reading RW's statements form a nuetral point of view would have seen that it was never a forgone conclusion. In fact I'd be concerned about Opus themselves as from their own statement it looks as though they didn't know the land was on a flood plain until quite recently. Also I can't find any reference to completed/in progress retail developments on their website despite RW's assertions that they have lots of experience in this area?

Also there appears to be no support for the project from the town centre traders despite assurances that there was.

All the info on our new stadium.

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Latest picture of the West Stand (Please ignore blue seats)

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"Also there appears to be no support for the project from the town centre traders despite assurances that there was."

So - if there is no support from the town centre traders why did most of them agree to use their premises to collect signatures for the stadium petition ?

Maybe so they didn’t get their windows smashed, by the hardliners

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Ok, this news is out in the open now, I haven't seen the statement!

To be fair to Opus, I understand that this information has come out of work they have been doing on the development recently and when the topographical information came back it was worked out that the 100 year flood level is above the current level by 2m or so! This is not something they would have known without starting to do some work on the project, as it is not on a flood plain as such. This probably means that if they do build a store here, it will end up on stilts. This means more parking (as they won't waste the space), but much more development cost which Opus might have to pass on to Tesco to make things stack up.

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That North East terracing went in mighty quick, they only started putting it in on Wednesday.

Yep, it was certainly far from full when Wigan came for their SEMI FINAL

Nor have I seen such a statement from Opus.

You know as well as I do that anyone proposing such a development would be aware of this from stage one - it's common knowledge. The 1 in 100 year flood level is without any defences in place. There are such defences in place because of the Chemical site. But lets assume you are correct and Tesco/Morrison/Sainsbury or whoever have to raise the building above a car park, that would increase the parking (good thing)without a lot of extra expense.

The alternative site for a Supermarket in the town has been approved for nearly 5 years without takers. The floor area is approx 25% less than Wheldon Road and involves the construction of a 5 and 7 storey building including car parking, approx 80 residential units and other retail units.

I know if I was Tesco or whoever, and wanted to locate to Cas for least cost in the next 12/18 months, which site I would be pushing for.

With regard to the Clan's post of the article in the press from a local shopping manager - let's just say he (the manager) is only "following orders" from his superiors.

Yet the developers of the chemical site are potentially looking at raising the ground level by 2-3m.



Piling, reinforced floors... yeah, that'll come cheap



Have you ever thought that it could be because no one actually wants to build one in Cas? There's already 4 supermarkets in the town. That's a pretty saturated market for a population of ca37,000.

Although 4 is probably 3 more than Featherstone has.

The council have highlighted a need for more supermarkets in Castleford HTH.

Also...4? There's 2 and 1 discount store.

Asda & a small Morrisons
Aldi
And you can't count a Sainsburys local which is the size of a cornershop (in fact, it used to be a newsagents)

If this statement exists, which I suspect it does, I had already heard rumour that they had discovered the issue with the 1 in 100 year flood levels and while I suspect they knew it could be a problem I don't think until whomever their engineering consultants are, actual came back with the results, Opus would actually know for definite. A flood risk assessment model and report will not have come cheap and actually I suspect that because no major development has taken place and Wheldon Road for some time, that this data was not readily available and Opus might not have known from the outset as you suggest. As you know, I have seen copies of two proposed site layouts and they were both for fairly typical standard store and car park layouts and not a raise store, which leads me to believe they didn't. I think they knew it was something they had to check but I suspect they were hoping for better news.

As for cost, it will make the store a good 25% more expensive to build but will give them the option of a bigger store and more car parking spaces if they can get this passed the planners.





Now this is indeed spot on! Also, I don't agree with Mr Dog, and suspect neither do you, I know Tesco want a store in Cas, and more in West Yorkshire in general, and it is an area they are targeting for both Express and larger format stores.

I wonder now, if this news is correct, that the threat to not building a Tesco on Cas's Wheldon Road site is not existing alternative sites, but one 5 years down the line?

It is such a bloody shame that the housing market and construction sector is still up the creek without a paddle, if the economy was in the same place now as we were 5 years ago , you would be building a new ground by now!

The good news is that I think that Wheldon Road will realise a good sale value, whether for a commercial/retail development or for housing, that would fund the majority of a new stadium at GH... but that could be a few years away yet.

Halifax have got their stadium.

And Leigh. Featherstone are starting work on improving theirs. York got one being built soon too. Doncaster's is pretty fair too.

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HKR have the final piece of funding in place for the new Nth stand. The current Nth stand will be moved to the STh area now (maybe will stop the Hull fans moaning!) with building of the Nth stand to commence soon. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

HKR have the final piece of funding in place for the new Nth stand. The current Nth stand will be moved to the STh area now (maybe will stop the Hull fans moaning!) with building of the Nth stand to commence soon. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html

Quote ="JB Down Under"HKR have the final piece of funding in place for the new Nth stand. The current Nth stand will be moved to the STh area now (maybe will stop the Hull fans moaning!) with building of the Nth stand to commence soon. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html'" Never mind that , have you finished the extension to the west terrace yet ?

Quote ="JB Down Under"HKR have the final piece of funding in place for the new Nth stand. The current Nth stand will be moved to the STh area now (maybe will stop the Hull fans moaning!) with building of the Nth stand to commence soon. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html'" Never mind that , have you finished the extension to the west terrace yet ?

I know thats what I was thinking!

East. I think it all now falls under the same job.

Quote ="JB Down Under"HKR have the final piece of funding in place for the new Nth stand. The current Nth stand will be moved to the STh area now (maybe will stop the Hull fans moaning!) with building of the Nth stand to commence soon. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html'" Is that 3D or a photograph? Sometimes I can't tell the ruddy difference!

Quote ="JB Down Under"HKR have the final piece of funding in place for the new Nth stand. The current Nth stand will be moved to the STh area now (maybe will stop the Hull fans moaning!) with building of the Nth stand to commence soon. www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html'" Is that 3D or a photograph? Sometimes I can't tell the ruddy difference!

No , the west terrace

We dont have a west terrace. The RM stand runs down the west of the ground, the terrace runs down the east.

Sorry you are correct , im getting my East and West mixed up , must be the cold

So have you finished the East Terrace extension yet ?

No, like I say, I think the North stand and East extension have been contracted to the same developer to do at the same time.

But considering that the East Terrace extension has been ' being done ' for about 2 years now , best not mention anything until they actually start digging

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