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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"The point is why have an expiry date on the cheap tickets when we are clearly going to struggle to sell out a 90,000 seater stadium? There is absolutley no point whatsoever in having empty seats at wembley on 5th November.
People who arent rugby league fans are also less likely to buy tickets so far in advance but if they saw eng vs aus at wembley in a few weeks for £10 they would be more likely to say go on then and buy tickets.'"
Thank you. Some posters massively missing the point here. I didn't once say I wanted a £10 ticket or moan about the offer ending.
Thanks to the poster earlier in the thread, I have got myself and a few mates some £45 tickets for £25. Can't argue with that. Still, no good to casual supporters though, as they will be unaware of the code and the only options will be £35+ tickets if they want to sit with friends.
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| I really hope we see a good turnout from the Aussie and Kiwi fans. The majority of them live in the south and London so with games being at wembley I'm really hoping to see these guys out in numbers.
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| Quote ="liger1992"I really hope we see a good turnout from the Aussie and Kiwi fans. The majority of them live in the south and London so with games being at wembley I'm really hoping to see these guys out in numbers.'"
Hopefully the RFL will run an exclusive promotion for them in London, offering £20 tickets in the top tier, perhaps.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Hopefully the RFL will run an exclusive promotion for them in London, offering £20 tickets in the top tier, perhaps.'"
Its a market which has to be targeted. They have there own media over here, Magazines like TNT and other small newspapers. I would hope the RFL have been using these avenues to get this guys buying tickets.
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| Quote ="prehensile"Ordered and paid for mine on August 18th, but not received yet.'"
same has me i ordered 6 £10 ones but if it is the same has c cup tickets usually 10 days to 2weeks before when you get them
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| Quote ="Wilbred T Pricklepop"I know tons of people off to this who aren't big rugby league fans. (they follow the game casually, watch occasional game on sky etc)
People are up for this. It's england v australia at wembley!!!! The attendance will be alot better than people think.
Can't wait.'"
Exactly. Plenty of people who aren't regular watchers of live rugby league will attend a game like this purely because its seen as a 'big' event - watching international sport at the national stadium.
I got a couple of mates to go watch GB v Aus at the old wembley who had never seen a live RL game before and as far as I know never have since. Even though they didn't understand the rules they were caught up in the excitement of being at a live sporting event, supporting your country in the national stadium.
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| Quote ="liger1992"Its a market which has to be targeted. They have there own media over here, Magazines like TNT and other small newspapers. I would hope the RFL have been using these avenues to get this guys buying tickets.'" This obsession with 'targeting ex-pats in London' is just absurd. If the ex-pats are fans of RL, it's likely that they will already be going. If not, then they are no more likely to buy tickets than anyone else in London, and marketing specifically to them is just a complete waste of time and money.
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| Quote ="wakeytom"Has anyone got their tickets yet, I paid for mine ages ago!'" My tickets for Aus V NZ arrived on Thursday, so I imagine some time next week for yours.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Thank you. Some posters massively missing the point here. I didn't once say I wanted a £10 ticket or moan about the offer ending.
Thanks to the poster earlier in the thread, I have got myself and a few mates some £45 tickets for £25. Can't argue with that. Still, no good to casual supporters though, as they will be unaware of the code and the only options will be £35+ tickets if they want to sit with friends.'"
Exactly mate.
I dont expect a 10 quid ticket but I'd like to have the choice of say a £25 ticket behind the posts on the middle or upper tier then having to pay £35 or £45 to sit on the touchline.
I think they should have made the whole stadium available at £10 a ticket up until kick off and I think we'd have got 70,000+. That would have made a statement and helped us get international Rugby League back on track.
Missed opportunity IMO.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"
I think they should have made the whole stadium available at £10 a ticket up until kick off and I think we'd have got 70,000+. That would have made a statement and helped us get international Rugby League back on track.
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It would have made a statement, but what sort of statement? That international rugby league is an inferior product and not worth paying for. Personally I dont think any tickets should have been sold for £10, why should going to watch England and Austrialia cost half as much as going to watch Wakefield? If a reasonable amount of money is spent advertising in London, people will attend the event and be willing to pay to do so
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| Quote ="headhunter"This obsession with 'targeting ex-pats in London' is just absurd. If the ex-pats are fans of RL, it's likely that they will already be going. If not, then they are no more likely to buy tickets than anyone else in London, and marketing specifically to them is just a complete waste of time and money.'"
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"icon_lol.gif
Brilliant.'" Fancy pointing out what's wrong with what I said? If I suggested targeting Northern ex-pats, you would laugh and say it was stupid, yet that's the exact same principle as what you're suggesting. Not all Aussies are RL fans. The ones that are probably already know about the game.
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| Quote ="headhunter"This obsession with 'targeting ex-pats in London' is just absurd. If the ex-pats are fans of RL, it's likely that they will already be going. If not, then they are no more likely to buy tickets than anyone else in London, and marketing specifically to them is just a complete waste of time and money.'"
It's actually a very cost-effective policy. If you pubilcise it to their press it becomes a social event and so you get the non-RL fans going too (alot of the Aussies / Kiwis in London are middle class and tend towards Union). But if its a day out with the community they'll go (just witness the number of Wallaby shirts you'll get in the crowd, rather than just Kangaroo ones; for the Kiwis it's usually more pronounced - almost exclusively All Black's shirts). You must remember we are talking about an international competition here - so the more support you can build for each team, not just England, the more vibrant the competition and the better it'll look on TV.
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| Quote This obsession with 'targeting ex-pats in London' is just absurd. If the ex-pats are fans of RL, it's likely that they will already be going. If not, then they are no more likely to buy tickets than anyone else in London, and marketing specifically to them is just a complete waste of time and money.'"
When NZ played OZ at Harlequins in 09, it looked pretty fill of Aussies and Kiwis to me. If you don't advertise the game, how are they going to know about it. If you think we're going to get 40k in Wembley just on the hardcore league fans, then your living on another planet.
We have to try and entice neutrals to the game. People who might not have watched rugby league, but love sport might go to the game becase it's OZ v.s Eng at Wembley.
I don't watch or play Cricket, but when OZ play Eng in the ashes, the grounds are packed full of supporters.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Fancy pointing out what's wrong with what I said? If I suggested targeting Northern ex-pats, you would laugh and say it was stupid, yet that's the exact same principle as what you're suggesting. Not all Aussies are RL fans. The ones that are probably already know about the game.'"
There are hundreds of thouands of Aussies and Kiwis in London. Even if 1% of those are tempted by a special offer in their media, that is a fantastic return.
I'm unsure of any media that is aimed towards Northern ex-pats, nor any specific northern ex-pat community that could be targetted, so that is irrelevant.
I suppose it is a waste of time the RFL sending out promotional material during the season to supporters who have purchased tickets online in the past before too?
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| does anybody know how many tickets have been sold,and can you pay on the day?
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"There are hundreds of thouands of Aussies and Kiwis in London. Even if 1% of those are tempted by a special offer in their media, that is a fantastic return.'" There are millions of people in London. If we market to the whole of London and 1% take it up, then we'll sell out Wembley. Obviously that's not going to happen, but you understand my point. Aussies and Kiwis that aren't already RL fans aren't any more likely to attend than any other demographic, so making concerted efforts to attract these people in favour of other demographics doesn't really make sense.
Quote I'm unsure of any media that is aimed towards Northern ex-pats, nor any specific northern ex-pat community that could be targetted, so that is irrelevant.'" It was an analogy. Like Aussies, you would expect that a Northerner would be more likely to already be a fan of RL than an average London resident. However that doesn't mean that all Northerners are RL fans, or would want to attend the game. And those that are already fans would likely know about the game anyway, without the need for specific marketing towards them. What I'm trying to say is that there's no point targeting small demographics based on the off-chance that they might already be RL fans. If the wider public know that the game is on, then any ex-pat RL fans will naturally be likely to attend.
Quote I suppose it is a waste of time the RFL sending out promotional material during the season to supporters who have purchased tickets online in the past before too?'" No, that's not the same at all. Attempting to encourage those that have shown an interest to attend more regularly isn't anything to do with this, and if you think that's what I'm talking about then you are spectacularly missing the point.
Quote ="Bull Mania"We have to try and entice neutrals to the game. People who might not have watched rugby league, but love sport might go to the game becase it's OZ v.s Eng at Wembley.'" Exactly. There's no requirement for these people to be Australian or New Zealand ex-pats, and they are no more likely to go because they are Australian or New Zealand ex-pats.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"icon_lol.gif
Okay then.'" So you don't have any answers to anything I've said, thanks for clearing that up. I just hope the new identity of the London SL club doesn't fall into this trap like the old London Broncos did when they tried to make things Australian-oriented and completely failed to attract any substantial level of support, either from locals or the ex-pats. FWIW I'm not saying don't market to ex-pats, I'm saying don't market solely to ex-pats while ignoring the wider population. There are millions of sports fans in London that are just as likely to attend as the small minority of ex-pats. Placing all the emphasis on trying to attract a very small group based on poorly thought out assumptions is just stupidity.
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| Quote ="headhunter"So you don't have any answers to anything I've said, thanks for clearing that up. I just hope the new identity of the London SL club doesn't fall into this trap like the old London Broncos did when they tried to make things Australian-oriented and completely failed to attract any substantial level of support, either from locals or the ex-pats. FWIW I'm not saying don't market to ex-pats, I'm saying don't market solely to ex-pats while ignoring the wider population. There are millions of sports fans in London that are just as likely to attend as the small minority of ex-pats. Placing all the emphasis on trying to attract a very small group based on poorly thought out assumptions is just stupidity.'"
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| Anybody know of any cheap rail deals on the day?
Travelling from Wakefield
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| Very disappointed that the RFL have done nothing (that I know of) with London schools. Given that there would otherwise be 40k+ empty seats it's the perfect chance to get 11-16 year-olds, most of them priced out of any other live sport, favourably acquainted with the game by giving away tickets.
It would also let London-resident parents and potential ticket-purchasers know about the existence of the match, which, to be honest, they otherwise wouldn't.
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| Agreed. Never too late though, send an email to all schools with vouchers attached, all schoolkids get in for £5 if the schools organise it.
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| This idea could still work, get the email out there this week ahead of half term and have a school trip to Wembley sorted for when the kids go back to school! Good performance from England and a few of the kids could be hooked!
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| Quote ="Rob from Erith"Good performance from England and a few of the kids could be hooked!'"
I think I've spotted flaw in your plan
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