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| Quote ="prop joe"so is this actually true then or have you made it up / read it elsewhere?
if you're just repeating a story you've read elsewhere then you're a bigger tool than Wilkin.'"
Came off the Wigan board, think Rogues has the finer details.
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| Bailey obviously really annoys opponents. McNamara has alluded to the fact that its exactly that characteristic which has led to him being selected for England (he also mentions the fact that once you get to know such players they're not all that bad).
Anyway, I look forward to next year when Bailey will no doubt be 'sorted out' by SL's 'genuine' hard men. As was supposed to happen this year. And last year. And the year before....
What McNamara needs to do in any event is exactly what Tony Smith didn't - get players from all the clubs mixing. No cliques.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"
Anyway, I look forward to next year when Bailey will no doubt be 'sorted out' by SL's 'genuine' hard men. As was supposed to happen this year. And last year. And the year before.....'"
Kind of hard to get sorted when you start the aggro then run behind teammates as Bailey tends to do.
He's a pr*ck of the highest order, surely you can see that?
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| losers always moan about this and that
winners go home and f**k the prom queen
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| Sorry WarriorWithin, but Bailey IS a prop isn't he? His job is to take the ball in. Not hard at all for someone who wanted to to make sure they get into the general area when he's tackled and throw a punch. I have seen this happen. Just not to Bailey.
I can see how Bailey is annoying to opponents and opposition fans alike. Personally, I've never met the guy and am in no position to judge what he's like off the field. Have you?
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| Quote ="WarriorWithin"Kind of hard to get sorted when you start the aggro then run behind teammates as Bailey tends to do.
He's a pr*ck of the highest order, surely you can see that?'"
Why doesn't somebody absolutely smash him? Like Mozza on Hansen. Like Kidwell on Mason. You get the idea. As already mentioned he is a prop, its not hard to lay down the marker, only nobody has actually done it yet
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Sorry WarriorWithin, but Bailey IS a prop isn't he? His job is to take the ball in. Not hard at all for someone who wanted to to make sure they get into the general area when he's tackled and throw a punch. I have seen this happen. Just not to Bailey.
I can see how Bailey is annoying to opponents and opposition fans alike. Personally, I've never met the guy and am in no position to judge what he's like off the field. Have you?'"
I have no problems with his attitude in terms taking the ball in hard and being aggressive because as u say thats his job. It's his taunting/threating young players after winning/losing games.
He might be a top guy off the field although it's not what i've heard. I can't judge that either as i've never met him personally. All i can go off is even his own players feel the need to rein him in half the time. he's an embarrassment.
There's simply no need for it.
And as for why he hasn't been smashed, well Radford gave him a good hiding but it is weird that no one has really put the big hits on him which i think people are crying out for him to get. Maybe it's just a matter of time, who knows.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Why doesn't somebody absolutely smash him? Like Mozza on Hansen. Like Kidwell on Mason. You get the idea. As already mentioned he is a prop, its not hard to lay down the marker, only nobody has actually done it yet
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Because he hides. Ryan Bailey's average stats will see very few hitups and very few metres. He's always third or fourth in the tackle as well.
Classic example is when he did his high shot on Maurie Fa'asavalu at Knowsley Road. Graham was hell bent on destroying him, the red mist had well and truly descended, yet Bailey hid in the centres and didn't take any runs up the middle with the ball after it.
This idea that Bailey is a hard man prop is just wrong. He's a wind up merchant and he does that very well, but he's not a good player and he hasn't got it in him to be an enforcer like the childish element of the Leeds support believe either.
Most normal Leeds fans admit he's a fool and plenty have said his antics are an embarassment to the likes of Sinfield, Burrow, Peacock etc who win without the need to act like they are in primary school.
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| Quote ="WarriorWithin"It's his taunting/threating young players after winning/losing games.
And as for why he hasn't been smashed, well Radford gave him a good hiding but it is weird that no one has really put the big hits on him which i think people are crying out for him to get. Maybe it's just a matter of time, who knows.'"
you know for a fact that he goes threatening players after matches do you or did you just read it on a forum like the other div on this thread and believe it to be true?
Where's hardman Radford now btw? seems to have gone missing since the last Leeds/Hull match.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"
Classic example is when he did his high shot on Maurie Fa'asavalu at Knowsley Road. Graham was hell bent on destroying him, the red mist had well and truly descended, yet Bailey hid in the centres and didn't take any runs up the middle with the ball after it.
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You know as well as anyone else who saw that game that you're talking bo11ocks. Bailey actually ran across the field on the very next play to make sure he ran at the FGB who did absolutely nothing apart come in as a cowardly 3rd man into Bailey's back later in the match.
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| Quote ="prop joe"you know for a fact that he goes threatening players after matches do you or did you just read it on a forum like the other div on this thread and believe it to be true?
Where's hardman Radford now btw? seems to have gone missing since the last Leeds/Hull match.'"
I know the the young Wigan player that he threatened after Wembley and he told me, so yeah i know.
Radford gave Bailey a hiding and it was clear to see. He's now retired and is joining the Hull coaching staff.
You defending a man like Bailey says it all really.
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| Quote ="prop joe"you know for a fact that he goes threatening players after matches do you or did you just read it on a forum like the other div on this thread and believe it to be true?
Where's hardman Radford now btw? seems to have gone missing since the last Leeds/Hull match.'"
Errmmmm its the end of the season??? He has now retired also. He did ask Bailey to take part in his boxing event at the end of the year, but Bailey declined
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| Sport at most levels has a bit of niggle. Bailey is one of those players who IMO has got a bit of a reputation that is probably unjustified. People say he hides behind other players, not the case, if he has to fight he will, just ask Luke o'donnell. I would much prefer him not to get involved with the fighting and cost the team. I have not had anyone show me proof he actually goes around intimidating young players, another urban myth, but that just goes on all the time. This issue is no one on the saints side had the balls to tell him to shut it on the field.
In Barry mac testimonial brochure scroots gives an account in one of his first games first team running on the pitch. Opposition props were saying they were gonna smash the young lad. Next minute Barry mac has hold of one of them saying they would have him to deal with first. Maybe this is what wilkin should have done rather than running to the press
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Sport at most levels has a bit of niggle. Bailey is one of those players who IMO has got a bit of a reputation that is probably unjustified. People say he hides behind other players, not the case, if he has to fight he will, just ask Luke o'donnell. I would much prefer him not to get involved with the fighting and cost the team. I have not had anyone show me proof he actually goes around intimidating young players, another urban myth, but that just goes on all the time.
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You forgot to mention that he always cleans his teeth, and that he loves his mum.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"You forgot to mention that he always cleans his teeth, and that he loves his mum.'"
No that would be a lie. Look at the guy he has no teeth!!
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| Quote ="WarriorWithin"I know the the young Wigan player that he threatened after Wembley and he told me, so yeah i know. '"
Really? So is this the same young man who initionally tweeted this nonsense before rather quickly removing it? Is it the same young man who never complained to his Club? Is it the same Club who never asked Redhall to investigate this alleged Bad boy behaviour? Perhaps you would care to tell us all what your "chum" told you?
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Radford gave Bailey a hiding and it was clear to see. He's now retired and is joining the Hull coaching staff.'"
What was clear to see, and is easily checked on that famous video sharing site, was cheapshot Radford attacking a prone player attempting to regain his feet and play the ball. Radford was quite rightly sent off for his cowardly actions, whilst Bailey continued to play and finish the match in some style.
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You defending a man like Bailey says it all really. '"
And do tell, what in your considered opinion is a man like Bailey? If you could perhaps flavour your opinion with facts, rather than regurgitating the many Urban Myths that surround TMFMISL, I'd be pleasantly surprised.....
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"And do tell, what in your considered opinion is a man like Bailey? If you could perhaps flavour your opinion with facts, rather than regurgitating the many Urban Myths that surround TMFMISL, I'd be pleasantly surprised.....'"
And right on queue...you come up with a myth of your own.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"What was clear to see, and is easily checked on that famous video sharing site, was cheapshot Radford attacking a prone player attempting to regain his feet and play the ball. Radford was quite rightly sent off for his cowardly actions, whilst Bailey continued to play and finish the match in some style.'"
Well what's clear is no matter what you're going to defend him. What i saw was Bailey 3 or 4 times hit the back of Radford's head with him elbow in his attempt to get up. Radford clearly sees red and belts him... and good on him as well.
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| Quote ="WarriorWithin"Well what's clear is no matter what you're going to defend him. What i saw was Bailey 3 or 4 times hit the back of Radford's head with him elbow in his attempt to get up. Radford clearly sees red and belts him... and good on him as well.
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Yeah that makes sense, isnt at all a double standard and definitely shows you as reasonable.
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| Quote ="WarriorWithin"I know the the young Wigan player that he threatened after Wembley and he told me, so yeah i know.
Radford gave Bailey a hiding and it was clear to see. He's now retired and is joining the Hull coaching staff.
You defending a man like Bailey says it all really.'"
And i know Ryan who told me there's nothing in it at all, it never happened.
Radford gave Ryan a few cheap shots and was rightly sent off, was Bailey?
Every game they've met in since has been embarrassing for Radford who's been completely owned by TMFMISL, he's now retired.
Says it all really.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Yeah that makes sense, isnt at all a double standard and definitely shows you as reasonable.'"
Ok if you say so.
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| Quote ="WarriorWithin"Ok if you say so.'"
You're right, what i wrote was completely incorrect.
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| at the leeds fans defending bailey. It really is laughable, he's a thug off the field and cheap shot merchant on it.
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| Bailey cant even spell his own name so rest assured once he ends his playing days he will amount to nothing.
I cant wait to "whoop whoop" at him when I see him face down in the gutter.
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| Quote ="Enicomb"icon_lol.gif at the leeds fans defending bailey. It really is laughable, he's a thug off the field and cheap shot merchant on it.'"
Perhaps you'd care to give us some examples?....
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