I'm 6ft 5" on the internet. It's great

Don't bother , you aren't fooling anybody , neither is Rich

You are somewhere between Tyrion Lannister and Nick Nack.

Would you like a glossop kiss? (Headbutt to the knees).

Eh lad?

I fear for my ankles sometimes I really do.

Because they no that no matter how they try Tykes can never surpass the Lancastrians. History shows it.

This is another daft statement. Quins are not 'essentially' bankrupt at all. The company is clearly not self-profitable or self-sustainable as a business (like Crusaders clearly weren't), but while ever you have someone willing to underwrite the losses or service the debt then they are clearly not 'essentially' bankrupt.

If you use this as your yard stick for assessment of clubs then Warrington and Saints are equally 'essentially' bankrupt... in fact, other than Leeds, Wakefield, Cas, Bradford and maybe Hull... then they are all 'essentially' bankrupt!

And yet Fax are self sustaining , what more do you want a Championship club to do , Exactly ?

Avoid the points raised with another question... however, put in a better more robust application than one of the existing clubs which may, or may not, include finding an optional sugar daddy!

To the same level as Quins ? , what percentage of Quins expenditure is ' earned ' income , and what is ' donation ' ?

Then ask the same question of all the other clubs you put forward as also ' bankrupt ' ?

What did you expect Fax to be able to do , to guarantee a SL place ?

Not be better , what specific financial targets do you suggest they achieve ?

Well, we know that Saints last accounts show them £8m in debt, ok these will be mainly directors loans so it is not a debt unless they call them in, but that is their exposure. No one has answered a question of mine about the whether the Tesco/Housebuilder deal includes wiping or partially wiping out some of the debt? We understand that Mr Moran is putting in roughly £2m per annum at Warrington and that Mr Lenagan puts in more than a £1m plus at Quins and probably much more at Wigan! So is Quins percentage of donated to earned income will be high... but if he is happy to put the money in, what does it matter?



Not as high, of course, I would not deny that one bit... but money is money!



It would appear that Fax maybe didn't put in any tangible financial information, never mind achievable financial targets!

So what are Warrington spending Mr Morans 2 million a year on ? If we see them getting almost capacity crowds and massive merchandise income plus the 1.2 from SKY , with a salary cap of only 400 k more than the SKY money ?

Similarily with the pies ?

So a club that is used to breaking even , didn't lie like the rest of the clubs ,

If what you have put on here is true , the Wakefield are completely fcucked , are you suggesting Mr Glover is going to put the same 2 million into the Wildcats as Mr Moran puts into Warrington every year ? , because the costs that Wakefield will have to pay , and the loss of revenue will mean he will have to at least match Mr Moran for Wakey to be anything like competitive

what a strange post this is,do you live life with your head stuck in the sand?.
why do you have such a strong agenda to defend all things wakefield trinity?

Suggest you watch "Inside Job" and see how the equally Billion$ auditing companies responsible for credit ratings of companies behaved in the GFC, no process/company is incorruptable. Having said that to do it just to annoy Fax fans seems unlikely!

Nice Song Of Ice And Fire reference there Chris

But you're just making that up? Aren't you? You have no evidence whatsoever to support that contention.



Again, you're making it up as you go along. Moran doesn't put £2 million into Warrington every year. Most if not all of Warrington's turnover is generated from a successful SuperLeague club. Suspect you're suggesting he does because it allows you to convince yourself that Warrington are lucky, Leigh aren't and that's why your languishing in the lower divisions and Warrington are pushing for the title.

You just sound like a bitter, twisted old man who wants to watch his team play at the highest level but because you can't you complain, bitch and moan about the system in place to decide who does.

Did stabug say this or was he just quoting another poster?

It's interesting that everyone's focused on Quins reliance on their chairman, mainly I think because Quins are an easy target, however no one is pointing out that Huddersfield have a similar reliance on Ken Davy, something pointed out in their report.

I'm sat in my office 200 metres from Bank tube station - I do understand how the city works

What I also understand is that people only bend the rules and take major risks for major rewards... not to fiddle licensing application process for Super League

Edited for accuracy.

Thanks, that is indeed very funny

Made up rubbish.

Really? wonder if anybody has mentioned that to David Hughes.