I'm worried about centres. Most are unjured. Chris Lawrence should be in Australian side if fit, but most of our firrst choice are out either retirement or unjured.

Someone was suggesting Burrow for england. Really? That tiny bloke who'd be lucky to be 5ft? Plays for leeds I think. He either must run the 100m in 11 secs or be the best passer in the game. You really see him tackling Frank Pritchard, Junior Sauu, Vatuvei (NZ left), Capt Mannering, SKD? I cant see a player as small as him being beneficial to a side that needs to stiffen it's defence.

Whilst I wouldn't have him playing for England, Burrow is no slouch in defence. He certainly wouldn't be my first pick to run at, I've seen him pick up 110kg props and dump them on their backside.

Is that called sarcasm??

For me, this backline shows just how thread bare we have been in the backs for the last decade – Wellens has been a top quality Super League player but lacked the pace to be international quality and his slow kick returns have always had GB/England on the back foot at the start of every set

Carney was a good winger but having to put Pryce on the other wing shows the lack of quality we have had there – played out of position and didn’t excel on the wing at all. As for the centres, Gleeson on form was potent in attack but that form was sporadic and Senior is again a solid performer but not going to scare international defences to death

Compare that centre/wing quartet to the one previously posted below from the late 90’s – Offiah, Newlove and Robinson were all world class and Connolly was probably a better centre than Senior in his prime

1: Radlinski
2: Offiah
3: Newlove
4: Connolly
5: Robinson
6: Edwards
7: Goulding

Our current young backs – Tomkins, Briscoe, Watkins, Hall, Jones-Bishop, McGilvary, Broughton etc have some way to go to be in the class of Offiah, Robinson and Newlove but there is every chance they will be better international players than the 2003/04 vintage

chris lawrence eh...........yes please

It’s terrible when your best centres are not available through retirement isn’t it - Harold Wagstaff has made himself unavailable for England too

Anyone who hasn't picked Briscoe in their team needs to learn more about the game.

Best British winger by far in SL.

Briscoe having a brilliant game against Castleford tonight. Best British winger there is.

like i said at the very beginning...

yeaman & briscoe on 1 side...and tomkins & charnley on t'other


anyone who can't see that it's the best option we have needs their head reading

I know he isn't but I don't like J Tomkins at centre. Like someone has said he's experienced in that position.
I'll get called biased but for me, Yeaman & Briscoe on the left and Hall and Bridge on the right. Or if we want a right sided winger playing on the right then McGilvary (spelling).

Ryan Hall is the best winger in uk. proven not good enough. done nothing this year. don't make me laugh. 106 career tries in 116 games for leeds. 23 tries this season playing in an average Leeds side with no specialist centre inside him. he should be a shoe in for England.

Ryan Hall is a good winger, no doubt about that but Briscoe is significantly better – if Briscoe had played on the left wing for Leeds over the last 3 seasons, he would have had a hatful

fantastic player Tom Briscoe him and hall are the best wingers in league. still think Briscoe is a centre. down to opinion but for me hall edges it as an out an out winger

Oh Krissy Welham

What about him?

Ermm two good tries in france tonight and some awesome defence to boot. Ohh and did I mention his 25 tries so far this season?

What about the rest of the season were his season has been awful? I don't think he'll be considered for a long time until he can sort his defence out.
You've got to admit, it is poor.

In your eyes but that's only to be expected. He's been the best of the three Hull players considered so far

I don't have to admit it actually. I will admit that he's had a few poor reads but these are getting few and far between. What used to be very bad was his one on one tackling and for the latter part of this season it's being very very good.

The stats are poor reading for Kris Welham but he has been far from poor in defence with most of his missed tackles coming from poor reads but have rarely been costly to the team. He makes many a try saving tackle when everyone else has pretty much given up, something I think he's learnt from Briscoe over the years.

Kris used to play full back too and with him being a similar size and weight to the Aussie centres he should do pretty well in the air against their number one kicking tactic.

Again that's in your opinion. So why do you think that he is the best choice out of the three? Yeaman has scored only 4 tries less than him upto now and playing two games less. His wing partner has scored 18 too, showing he can put his winger away too. Brilliant defence compared to Welhams and it shows with Welhams 60+ missed tackles compared to Yeamos 20.

So you think Welham is the same build to the likes of Justin Hodges, Inglis (yes I know he's not in the 4N's), Idris etc?

how about some of you go read the very first post?


we'd be better served keeping club partnerships together than chucking 4 individuals together

By the looks of it, it'll be 2 individuals as Yeamo & Briscoe will be together.

His pre-season stats were 185cm and 91kg but he's still growing and I think they'll be different no we're at the back end of the season. Would be interesting to see what those others have?