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| Quote ="Faxhali"This game is incredibly corrupt and if the crusaders had only pulled out yesterday then the announcement should have been postponed to be re-evaluated.'"
What are you on about, get a fookin' grip. So now because Halifax doesn't get a licence the game is corrupt? Pathetic. What was there to be re-evaluated? Crusaders withdrawn because their finances were not strong enough for a three year licence so you would assume their application was too weak to be successful anyway so they pulled out. Clearly Halifax's application wasn't good enough, accept it and move on.
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| The RFL it would appear had no early warning of the Crusdaers falling on their sword, so had very little room to manouvre in the time scale. The remit was one club to be brought up, Widnes and one to be removed this has now happened. I can understand the Fax fans position, but it is bad enough getting one club up and running by next season from now without doubling the problem.
Clearly Wakey are in a better position to compete next season then Fax are and for once the RFL have taken the correct course for the good of the game. The RFL had taken the only logical decision they have fulfilled the remit correctly with Widnes coming up and they now have three season to turn it around or they will go next time ( Quins permitting ).
It can not have been easy and the Crusaders players/fans must be very upset by the news the timing could not have been worse. The game will have some very tough decisions to take in the coming years as the world changes for the worse, this could turn out to be one of the easier ones.
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| Quote ="maurice"You think his organisation didn't
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He owns about 1/3 of BSkyB.
So it maybe a lot of things but 'his' isn't one of them.
And ATM I doubt very much if the chairman or the CEO are returning good old Ruperts calls
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| Its an absoulute disgrace, and if I was a Fax fan id be absoulutely fuming. How the hell can Wakefield possibly have a better application than Halifax??? Somebody please enlighten me. Belle Vue is an absoulute dump, they have been stringing people along with this "we are getting a new ground" for years, youth development and crowds are also pathetic.
So, Wakefield are going to play at Belle Vue again next season..........................What a farce.
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| I'm very amused by the notion that Wakefield are so cosy with the RL higher ups that they are prepaired to reject the strong aplication of Fax in favour of the weak one by Wakefield - just tell me why would they do this? How would this be in the best interests of the game?
Im sorry for those Fax fans that have had their ambitions dashed today but it defies logic that the RFL would do anything other than to award the 14 licences to the best 14 aplications.
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| Quote ="owiepob"How would this be in the best interests of the game?
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That quote and the RFL dont go hand in hand.
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| Quote ="21-12"Its an absoulute disgrace, and if I was a Fax fan id be absoulutely fuming. How the hell can Wakefield possibly have a better application than Halifax??? Somebody please enlighten me. Belle Vue is an absoulute dump, they have been stringing people along with this "we are getting a new ground" for years, youth development and crowds are also pathetic.
So, Wakefield are going to play at Belle Vue again next season..........................What a farce.'"
It's an absolute disgrace that Cas spent a season in NL1 when it should have been you, but hey
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| Quote ="21-12"Its an absoulute disgrace, and if I was a Fax fan id be absoulutely fuming. How the hell can Wakefield possibly have a better application than Halifax??? Somebody please enlighten me. Belle Vue is an absoulute dump, they have been stringing people along with this "we are getting a new ground" for years, youth development and crowds are also pathetic.
So, Wakefield are going to play at Belle Vue again next season..........................What a farce.'"
Hi 21-12.
I have been waiting for you.
You haven't dissapointed me.
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| I think it a little unfair that Halifax followers should complain when their club was permitted to spend beyond the salary cap for the 2010 season during which they ticked the box for on-field criteria by winning the Grand Final.
It was other Super League clubs that agreed with the latest ruling on clubs going into administration - probably to do a favour for Crusaders.
Best wishes to Wakefield.Good luck in the future to Halifax.
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| [url=http://www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/07/26/super-league-licensing-richard-lewis-explains-all/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterWatch until the end to see why Wakey were chosen above Halifax[/url
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| There is talk that Crusaders might not play their remaining fixtures although those are mere rumours.
What about the few season ticket holders?
Bit of a kick in the teeth for all 7 of them?
Would they be eligible for a refund?
And it could influence the final outcome on the table too if the team didn't show up or they put out a weakened one.
Well an even more weak one.
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| Quote ="marshman"[url=http://www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/07/26/super-league-licensing-richard-lewis-explains-all/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterWatch until the end to see why Wakey were chosen above Halifax[/url'"
And a remarkably detailed assessment it is too!
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| Not wanting to take ' sides ' here , but it would seem to me that in an attempt to protect the Crusaders [ by changing the rules on administration the RFL have sabotaged Halifaxs application
If the rules had not been changed , Halifax would today be in SL
This is why fans get so frustrated , with the actions of the RFL
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"There is talk that Crusaders might not play their remaining fixtures although those are mere rumours.
What about the few season ticket holders?
Bit of a kick in the teeth for all 7 of them?
Would they be eligible for a refund?
And it could influence the final outcome on the table too if the team didn't show up or they put out a weakened one.
Well an even more weak one.'"
Players not getting paid by owners who want to kill 2 clubs......I think the chance of a refund is very slim indeed.
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| When are the renovations of Bell Vue starting?
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| Quote ="Guerrier"That point's a bit irrelevant though.
They must have decided that Fax's proposal was worse than Wakey's. Presumably, Crusaders would have retained their place (I'm guessing) and Wakefield would have been kicked out, had the Crusaders not withdrawn.'"
So based on the independant panel, KPMG and Savilles Celtic crusaders was a Financially viable proposition for at least 3 years, The club say differently, What credability does this give the whole Independant Panel ( of which Woods and Lewis are on BTW ) when they cant even get that right.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"When are the renovations of Bell Vue starting?'"
2013....For the start of the next round of franchise decisions!!!!!
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| Quote ="TwoBlues"I think it a little unfair that Halifax followers should complain when their club was permitted to spend beyond the salary cap for the 2010 season during which they ticked the box for on-field criteria by winning the Grand Final.
It was other Super League clubs that agreed with the latest ruling on clubs going into administration - probably to do a favour for Crusaders.
Best wishes to Wakefield.Good luck in the future to Halifax.'"
Wrong again, We qualified on field against Barrow in the GF of 2009, then in 2010 also.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"How can you possibly use those terms in the same sentence as "RFL"?
If you want to see how corrupt the game has become take a look at who owns it - Rupert Murdoch. I rest my case.'"
It was a huge success before the Super League era ...
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| Quote ="marshman"[url=http://www.code13rugbyleague.com/2011/07/26/super-league-licensing-richard-lewis-explains-all/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitterWatch until the end to see why Wakey were chosen above Halifax[/url'"
So, basically the RFL will NOT now be taking past events into consideration. Halifax could go bust, employ murderers, and defraud everyone they ever deal with, so long as they put in an application which, for the [ifuture,[/i shows that they have a backer and have totally changed their ways.
For what it's worth - if they sat down and looked at both applications side by side as the clubs stand NOW and it is their judgement that Glover is a safer bet then fair do's. However, they should remove past activities and results from all of their criteria bollax.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Not wanting to take ' sides ' here , but it would seem to me that in an attempt to protect the Crusaders [ by changing the rules on administration the RFL have sabotaged Halifaxs application
If the rules had not been changed , Halifax would today be in SL
This is why fans get so frustrated , with the actions of the RFL'"
Complete and utter tosh and you know it. the rules on insolvency were absolutely nothing to do with the Crusaders, hell, before Moran put into his pocket Warrington were in big trouble re the tax payments
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| Well all after me
[iThe higher you build your barriers
The taller i become[/i
what! too soon ?
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| Let’s face it, the only reason Wakey are in is because the Crusaders bailed at the eleventh hour.
I can just imagine the pandemonium at Red Hall yesterday, with Lewis asking Rimmer where the bids for Wakey & Fax are.
In the bin where you instructed comes the reply.
Plan B then, who’s got the best pies Nigel?
Wakey are in……….
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| Quote ="Faxhali"So based on the independant panel, KPMG and Savilles Celtic crusaders was a Financially viable proposition for at least 3 years, The club say differently, What credability does this give the whole Independant Panel ( of which Woods and Lewis are on BTW ) when they cant even get that right.'"
Or maybe Crusaders had some promise of funding that has failed to materialise and thus rendered their business case defunct. Or possibly some part of their business case needed further investigation by the panel/auditors and it was only recently completed, resulting in their withdrawal by mutual consent.
Plenty of possibilities for those with an open mind and no axe to grind.
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| I'm looking forward to finally standing under cover at beele vue next season when they've covered the side and demolished the crumbling terracing and built their new covered stand
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