Avergae attendances so far:

1. Wigan 16863
2. Leeds 14747
3. Bradford 14251
4. Hull 12363
5. Warrington 10779
6. Hull KR 8361
7. St Helens 8261
8. Catalans 7949
9. Castleford 7267
10. Huddersfield 7243
11. Wakefield 6439
12. Salford 4567
13. Crusaders 3670
14. Harlequins 2841

You can add Cas to that list - imagine what we could do if we were in the top 2 like shudds and had their sy new stadium

unless you had ken davey as well, then probably not much,

try looking up hudds stats from about ten years ago,

its all down to money in the end.

Agreed. 4 team playoff, bottom relegated in each league:

Super League

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Bradford
Saints
Hull FC
Hull KR
Catalans
Huddersfield
Castleford

Championship

Widnes
Wakefield
Crusaders
London Broncos


Salford
Leigh
Halifax
Featherstone
Barrow
Sheffield

Championship 1

York
Toulouse
Dewsbury
Batley
Whitehaven
Hunslet
Keighley
Workington
Oldham
Doncaster

Championship 2

Swinton
Rochdale
London Skolars
SW Scorpions
Bramley
Gateshead
4 'other'm teams, expansion, National Conference, French etc

14 is probably about right for now. It may be a little too big at the moment but it gives the space franchising was supposed to give clubs in the position Salford, Quins, Crusaders, Hull KR, Cas/Wakefield/Widnes need to grow.

Without a massive investment somewhere we seem miles away from being able to expand though.

Looking at your championship1 league jonny the leyther, it looks like a very strong league! Alot stronger than it is now and more competitive! Would still have to be promo and relagation!

I dont think hetherington will be happy

No LEEDS!! I'm in! Seriously one of te biggest crowds is hull derby. So 10 team league please

You have to go spoil it!!

Now youv'e gone and upset the other Hetherington.

If they deserve their spot, surely they would go up after one season?

SUPERSONIC YAWN

Wish people like you would go away and leave the game to those who love and understand it - have you not done enough damage with you're halfbaked ideas already.

A 14 game SL now that's financially viable, mate you're a simpleton

Why should a club like Wakefield get a slice of the pie though? What do they bring to the competition?

And they're off

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You think SKY would be content to invest the same amount of money in the game when they're getting only half the matches? Do me a favour!

And each club would have 7 home games a season. Club chairmen already complain about not utilising their grounds enough with the current set up.

This is true,but what a stink there would be.

I can just imagine the hetheringtons on the phone to lenighan...Ian,Ian have you seen what they've done,we cant have this,its time we took back control of the game from the RFL.

Nothing stopping them having Rihanna concerts to make up the difference. People need to wake up. Rugby League is a fantastic sport, but there are still too many flat cappers knocking about who want the old status quos to be preserved. Move with the times and improve the competition. If we stumble on blindly like we are it'll just keep getting pushed to the back and end up like handball or british basketball.

Woah there cowboy , I was just explaining the OP s plan , not my opinion , just what he was proposing

I'm fairly sure the club chairmen would happily take an extra million guaranteed than have to play more games , Well those that were in this Super Duper League

10 team SL with Promo/Relegation

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Saints
Bradford
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Hull KR
Castleford
Catalan

Swap Bradford for London and I'd go with that (with the structure I proposed).

I've got an idea.

14 teams, promotion and relegation.

Even if my side got relegated by finishing last (like we didn't in 2006), I'd love that idea.

Looking back franchising has helped us a lot whether we like it or not. We were a yo-yo club but the franchise system allowed us to bring through young players without the risk of being relegated and where are we now? 6 points off the top of the table and despite some awful results we're in the mix. I'd stick with the way it is, although I'll never understand what the Quins and Crusaders bring to the league, but that's a different story.

We could all get biased to our own teams and say swap Widnes for Huddersfield.Keep as 14 clubs as it gives other teams a chance to build.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

The whole idea at the start of this topic has had me sat shaking my head in disbelief at such a blinkered, pathetic view.

Nobody in this country would take an 8 team league seriously... it's hard enough with 14 trying to convince people to take it seriously as most are used to seeing 20+ teams in a league as in football.

8 teams... no thank you... 14... just right. Leave it alone... it doesn't need changing again.