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FWIW

There is more promotion and marketing thought shown in the OP than SL does in the entire season!!!

The "children" however don't understand the concept

I like it. The 2000 World Cup didn't work because games just seemed to be placed at random, here, you get the feeling that should a match be placed in Bristol, a lot of marketing will be done by the parties down there to make the match(es) a success.

Got a bit of time before heading out for the Sonics game today (A team at home to Swindon St George, K.O 2.30pm if anyone fancies an amateur game etc), so thought I'd put my two penneth in.

I've been down in this neck of the woods for nearly a decade now, and have been involved with the Sonics since we launched in 2002.In that time I've seen the club struggle, build and now flourish. From scraping one open age team together (with muppets like me making up the numbers) we now have 2 open age sides, six junior clubs in the city (aunched a few weeks ago) and more and more schools are taking up our offer of coaching and competitions. Furthermore, as has already been pointed out, FiltoN College has recently added a Director of Rugby League to its Bristol Academy of Sport programme - the idea being that within a year or two we'll have an U18 team, hopefully in the Gillette Youth League.

It's still relatively early days for the sport of Rugby League in the city, but we're in a much healthier state now than we've ever been. Certainly, there seems to be more knowledge of the sport in the area than there has been, and we enjoy very good links with a number of local union clubs - five, for example, are hosting junior sides for us, with another couple equally as enthusiastic. In terms of adult players, we have a dedicated core now who would name League as their first choice code, plus many others from a union background who are just as keen on League. After being here for nine years, most union players know who we are - and many have either tried the sport, or have declared an interest.

Like Sheffield City Council, Bristol City Council see events as a way of bringing people to the city. And like Sheffield, they were involved in the football WC bid. Both councils/cities are in a strong psoition to bid (and have) for 2013 World Cup matches. Both places have the infrastructure - sporting facilities, good transport links, loads of hotels, vibrant city centres - to put in strong bids.

There are many reasons why using big cities as hosts for RLWC matches makes sense. Cities give you a bigger population to aim your marketing at. Big cities often have a strong sporting history and culture. And big cities are often populated by people with a variety of backgrounds, including those who have moved from "traditional" RL areas (be it the North of England or Australia/New Zealand etc) at some point in their lives.

Last time round, the RLWC played a match in Gloucester, on a rainy night. There were still 3, 500 there - not a huge figure, but given the game (Lebanon v New Zealand if I'm correct) and the conditions, not awful. If it had been played in Rochdale, Oldham, Sheffield, Gateshead, Doncaster etc, there would have been few more. Ditto the 4000 (including me) who turned up in Reading to see NZ vs the Cook Islands. A poor crowd, for sure, but similar to what we'd have got up North. The problem with those two areas was that they were pretty "random" - little or no community RL there at that point, or schools work.

Bristol has both of those, plus clubs like Swindon, Somerset Vikings, Gloucester etc within easy reach. It's easy to get to from London and the North either by car or rail/coach. And Bristol is a fine city.

The bid may or may not be successful. If it isn't, we've not lost anything. If it is, it will certainly give a boost to League in this part of the world - and that can only be a good thing IMHO.

We're realistic enough to realize that it comes a bit out of the left field, and it may not fit in with the RFL's plans. But if it does, we'll do everything we can collectively to market the game successfully and use it as a springboard for further grassroots development - particularly in schools. Sheffield, who I would also like to see get games for obvious reasons, would do the same.

NZ vs Australia at the stoop did 12,360 at Twickenham Stoop in 2009 4 nations. So having a game in London is a good thing.

Well done to Bristol for trying to support Rugby League and show our game off to the South West people. Hope it is a success!

Great stuff. I think I good crowd could be attracted in Bristol for the right match(es).

They also are used to RL supporters staying there instead of Cardiff for the Challenge Cup Final and maybe hope for a bigger slice of the hotel / restaurant / pub spending actiion. RU is big in the hinterland (and RL awareness too). A much better option than Cardiff IMO - close to Cardiff for any Welsh fans of the game, much more accessible for the English travellers and a prospective local audience.

With good local marketing - including advanced ticket sales - we could easily sell out stadia in Bristol and London. Need to build up these events at least a year in advance so it sems the hot, must have ticket.

What ground are they looking to play at? Ashton Gate (21.5k) or Memorial Ground (12k)? Memorial Ground doesn't look amazing to be fair (parts uncovered in winter might not attract many new comers), but Ashton Gate might be a bit too big for the sort of game that you'd expect them to get (I think one of the Group B games would be a good achievement).

IIRC, there are 21 group games. Perhaps a good strategy would be to spread them out so that 7 are in the NW, 7 in Yorkshire, and 7 in the rest of the country?

i.e...
NW - Widnes, Warrington, St Helens, Wigan, Leigh, Salford, Rochdale.
Yorkshire - Halifax, Huddersfield, Leeds, Cas, Sheffield, Doncaster, Hull
Elsewhere - Wrexham, Swansea, Cardiff, Bristol, Wembley, Stoop, Loftus Road

Can I just point out that there are thousands and thousands of New Zealanders and Australians living in London?

So 12,360 isn't really that wonderful.


If New Zealand played Australia in Bristol how many of those 12,360 do you think would go?

Write up in the local rag too. www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Hop ... ticle.html Good piece in the Bristol City game programme too, and a photoshoot on the pitch - keep your eyes peeled!

Write up in the local rag too. www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/Hop ... ticle.html Good piece in the Bristol City game programme too, and a photoshoot on the pitch - keep your eyes peeled!

Can I just point out that there are thousands and thousands of New Zealanders and Australians living in Australia?

Yet they couldn't fill a 27K ground for Australia v New Zealand.

So 12,360, by comparison, on the opposite side of the fscking world, is pretty wonderful.

I agree.

Imagine if the game had been held in Sydney where there is even less interest than Queensland.

Thankfully the Kiwi fans turned up for it. Should have sold out weeks ago in such a small ground. I guess you reap what you sew.

Bristol City have used their proposed new stadium at Ashton Vale (which may or may not be built by then - there is some local opposition), which has a higher capacity. Ashton Gate and the Memorial Ground are back-ups. Ashton Gate would be OK for a match though - decent atmos, quite a few boozers down North St in Bedminster/Southville serving good ale and cider etc.

I've got a mate who's a Leigh and Bristol Rovers fan. He says there would be interest but Rovers fans won't go to Ashton Gate and City fans won't go to the Memorial Ground which would be a problem.

I think it would work, Bristol is reasonably large and has little top flight sporting events, the RFL would need to market the hell out of it though, something ive not really seen for a while. Aswell as this its no good hosting a game like fiji vs samoa, we would need an England game down there to generate any real interest i think.

If a reasonable crowd is achieved maintaining momentum would be the real challenge. Its a fairly pointless exercise if nothing is done post world cup IMO.

Nevermind a low key game, I very much doubt there'd be much difference in crowd for an England v Wales game down in Bristol than there would in the "heartlands".

If the city is prepared to back it then they should be given something decent to work with.

Disagree on that one Asim. I think if England pick DW, Headingley and KC they will fill them all for a WC game.

I think with some marketing, if England say played Australia in the opening game of the WC in Manchester it could draw 40-50k

With proper marketing and a sensible ticketing policy every game should get a decent attendance.

All capacities of 20-25k, but I don't think England/Wales would fill them. Ashton Gate isn't much smaller and with good strategy, planning and marketing I don't think it would be unrealistic to look for 15k given the natural England/Wales rivalry, the proximity to the most populous areas in Wales and the "event" status the game would get in Bristol, it's also an easy enough trip to make from the heartlands certainly for those West of the Pennines.

Rather that than give them Ireland v PNG or the like then grumble when only 3 or 4k turn up.

I think that's the problem with the Bristol bid, they won't get an England game in all probability. So what game could you give them to draw a crowd and make the event a success?

I personally would quite like a Wales game. It's not a huge hop over the border.

That's true. Although is the idea for all the Wales games to be played in Wales?

Quote ="jonny the leyther"That's true. Although is the idea for all the Wales games to be played in Wales?'" Also true, but with a few group games to be played, one could feasibly be held in Bristol. But of course our first aim is to stage a successful bid. We're very keen on using social media to raise the profile as it provides a tangible means of measuring support, so anyone here who uses Facebook and supports us should certainly "like" the page and encourage others to do the same. www.facebook.com/pages/Bristol-B ... 8588873451 Yes, I will keep plugging it.

Quote ="jonny the leyther"That's true. Although is the idea for all the Wales games to be played in Wales?'" Also true, but with a few group games to be played, one could feasibly be held in Bristol. But of course our first aim is to stage a successful bid. We're very keen on using social media to raise the profile as it provides a tangible means of measuring support, so anyone here who uses Facebook and supports us should certainly "like" the page and encourage others to do the same. www.facebook.com/pages/Bristol-B ... 8588873451 Yes, I will keep plugging it.