Need to change it in SL first without worrying about the Championships. We are like SL child, different quota system, different results point system. Look how good the championships are with them two factors and an achievable salary cap. Heres an idea maybe they should introduce some of that to SL.

In the sense that you have to win the NRC to apply where as reaching the GF is enough? Seems the RFL dont agree with you.

Not being pedantic but they changed the champo cap to £400k

It isn't the Championships clubs responsibility to try to produce International quality players to the detriment of the competition , Widnes were given a clear message , " tick the box and you are in " they did this , and there is nothing wrong with that , all I have done on this thread is answer simple question honestly , you will get the SL place , quite correctly with the ' rules ' we currently have , as you know IMO those rules are wrong , but I don't make the rules

No they didnt, they reduced it last year to £300k

As has already been explained , they don't , this thread is asking peoples opinion on what should happen , not what they think will happen , read my 1 st post on page one

I agree that the RFL should look at ensuring that the same systems and rules apply to both leagues whenever possible. However, the RFL say that the Championship clubs themselves want to keep the quota and point systems in place, so what can you do?

The £300k quota is the real problem for any ambitious Championship club. It may make the competition more competitive, but it brings down the entire fleets progress down to the slowest vessel. It also widens the gap between the Championship and Super League. Far from being as exciting as it should be, the quality has suffered imo, and the comp has been downgraded. This is a worse situation than the quota and points systems. Any growing of the gap, between SL and the Championship, makes so much more difficult for the stronger clubs to move up a division and makes it easier for the RFL to pull up the drawbridge on us in the future.

Is it working ?

How many International or even SL players will be produced by the Championship clubs ( through their full youth system ) ?

Is it working in SL ?

Wether it is 100 K , 300 K or 600 K it is irrelevant , in fact if the rumours are correct , it will get even worse next season if the mess about with the Championships

Enjoy your last few months as a Championship club

I don't like the licence system, but I don't recall any of that being a stated aim of the RFL when setting it up.

Steve O'Connor has made it clear that he has followed the instructions of the RFL to the letter. He still had to achieve the goals they set out for him to follow in order to get the promised Championship licence, and he has achieved them all – and more!

Whether that is enough will remain to be seen. I cannot see how it can’t be enough. That’s not arrogance but confidence in what we can offer Super League compared to several other clubs.

I would disagree with that. I think what you can pay players will reflect in the quality of players you can attract. Not just from this country either. It would also help more ambitious clubs stay largely professional, like Salford did when they had their brief sojourn in the Championships last time.

I am a great believer in P&R, always have been and always will be, but that is not the criteria that the decision is based. Using the criteria set by the RFL, I believe Widnes will bring the most to the SL, which includes ground and ability to attract good crowds.

We had some great battles with them in the 80's and I have always enjoyed the games against them, home and away, so based on that I reckon Widnes are the best choice.

It's irrelivant because nobody else is going up



So unless you want totally ruin the Championships and help send more clubs to the wall , there isn't much point doing it is there

So Pepe.

Are we going to be having the pleasure of your clubs company in Superleague?

I think it's a nailed on cert Widnes will get the nod.


Part of me wants one of the other 2 to get it though just so I can laugh at all the Widnes fans abusing the fans of either Halifax or Barrow in the same way many of you did towards Celtic Crusaders when they got in last time.

Sorry, no offence.

Yes they are , but it doesn't mean I have agree with it though , does it , the

was there for a reason r 49

Widnes qualified in 2009 when they won the NRC , hardly the oracle of all things RL

And there was me thinking you fancied me

You may wish to consider the possibility of how much easier it will be for any new expansion clubs to compete with more established clubs, with bigger crowds and better stadiums. It may even see some of the stronger heartland clubs struggle to even to stay in the Championship.

It wasn’t so long ago that Leigh were demoted with Toulouse below you and Gateshead just above you….oh…wait a minute….

Reports of our bitterness are much exaggerated.

I think this post says more about you than it does about us.

Sorry you've lost me will a bigger SC make it easier , or a smaller SC make it easier

Leigh were not demoted , we were relegated for finishing in a relegation place , what happened after that is none of our doing , in fact you only have to see the current Championship 1 league table to see a possible reason why things did happen

A smaller cap would make it cheaper to include expansion clubs like Gateshead, Toulouse, Edinburgh eagles or the Dublin Raiders etc…

The question is, Who for?




I know what happened with Leigh. I was just joking...well, half joking.

A smaller cap in Championship 1 you mean , like 50 K , not for Toulouse of course the money being spent to fly them and us over the channel could support a new club in the midlands , in fact I wonder how much longer they can continue with their attendances going down compared to the other Elite 1 clubs , it would seem we ( Championship clubs ) are not the draw they thought we would be , they certainly aren't the draw the RFL hoped they would be for our fans

I think that Championship fans have seen the writing on the wall, and what the future now holds foe them.

Feeder clubs and a stepping-stone-league for new expansion clubs. As well as somewhere to stick current SL heartland clubs when they need somewhere they can rot away outside the only league which matters to the RFL.

The writing has been on the wall since 2007

Earlier than that.

Back in the 80's certain clubs were complaining that they brought more to the game and wanted more votes on the council.

As usual the RFL showed it's total lack of gonads!!!