Leeds will struggle this year. They won't be helped by the fact they have the worst coach in Superleague either.

I'm excited to see how Hull KR get on this year. They could be a top 4 side and I'm confident that if Mason ever comes they will finish higher than Hull FC as well.

By avoiding the wooden spoon you mean?

i really want them to do well. Quins in the playoffs would be great but i just can't see past 12th, myself.

We cant be worse than we were with him-Leeds will suffer you wait and see.

Granted I'm a bit biased, but...

1 Wigan
2 Wire
3 Saints
4 Huddersfield

5 Leeds
6 Hull KR
7 Bradford
8 Hull FC

9 Salford
10 Catalans
11 Castleford
12 Harlequins
13 Crusaders
14 Wakfield

Wigan will just manage to secure top place, although any order of the top four is possible.

Bradford will improve on last season by securing a play-off spot, with Hull FC taking 8th. Salford, Catalans and Castleford will all put up a fight for the play-offs though, so should be interesting.

Wakefield will "win" the wooden spoon, and probably lose their license.

Just my opinion, not trying to start an arguement with anybody.

I'm quite glad in a way that we're being predicted 9th/10th by most people, less expectation on the squad and we can go quietly about our business.

I'll still be disappointed if we dont make the 8 though.

I think Bradford will finish higher than Leeds.

Don't know how serious this post is, but that would be excellent for Potter's first season!

Would be a huge ask, but it is a totally new Bradford team so although we haven't been good for the past few seasons, its hard to tell how we'll play in 2011.

I am serious. This season will be a nightmare for Leeds. Bradford might not have a good season but Leeds will have a worse one.

It's too hard to predict this year IMO but the league will be split into 4 different mini leagues IMO, they could finish in literally any order.

Wigan
Saints
Wire
Leeds

These 4 will be fighting for top spot, but too hard to predict which order they will finish, it will depend on head to heads, injuries and how each team deals with their 'bad spell' of the season. Leeds will improve on last year I have no doubts. We have strengthened in a few areas and should improve. Wire have got rid of their worst player and brought in one of the best FB's in super league, I think they are the main challengers to Wigans title defence. Saints have lost experience but in super league they always field a good squad, I can't see them finishing below 4th.

Hudds
Hull

These two are pretty similar on paper, last year Hull were superb when at their best but had too many poor games. Hudds had alot going on behind closed doors last year and struggled at times but I think this season they could finish fifth again despite losing Hodgeson. Both can match the big 4 on their day but both are not as consistant, therefore they will both miss out on the top 4 IMO.

Bradford
Hull KR
Salford
Catalans

These 4 will fight for the last 2 play-off spots. Bradford and Salford have both made some good signings and got rid of some poor players so I think they will be in with a shout. Hull KR have been there or there abouts in the play-offs and will challenge again, they have a decent squad with some classy players. Catalans, well I don't know but I just have a feeling they may pull something off this year. They don't have a poor squad and if they can sort their naughty boys out and use their home advantage well then I can see them making a charge for the play-offs.

Crusaders
Quins
Cas
Wakey

The last 4 teams are either just as poor as last year or have lost some decent players.

My prediction of how it will pan out is.....

Wigan
Wire
Leeds
Saints
Hudds
Hull
Hull KR
Bradford
Salford
Catalans
Cas
Wakey
Crusaders
Quins

This will hopefully provide us with some more nail biting play-off fixtures again.

Wigan v Saints
Hull v KR
Wire v Leeds
Hudds v Bradford

Proabably even better than this years!

In conclusion I think every team has arguments as to why they will have a cracking season and every team has a chance of things not going their way whether that be new signings not gelling or expectancy being to high etc. I think this is the hardest super league season to call and the first time we have had 4-5 maybe even 6 teams with a shout of Old Trafford at the end of the year. We certainly have 4 teams who could realistically win the compeition, I dont think we have had that since 2004 when the old big 4 was in place before Wigan and Bradfords demise. Wire have IMO replaced Bradford to form a new top 4 which will stick around for a few years yet I think.

The Warrington squad might be old, bt Morley, Monaghan, Higham, King and Briers all played 30+ games last year, as apposed to Vinnie, Wild and Feka probably kicked in about 15 each. Plus if you look at the standard of talent, i'd rather have a class 30 odd year old, than a has-been (or never has-been and never will be)

Hold on there Mr Burns, i never commented on the quality of your team im mearly saying the age of your team is the same or older than ours so your dads army comment isn't justified.

Why not though, i know "Leeds know how to win games" and all that jargon, but they have one proven hooker, that under performed fot 18 of his 24 months over here, and a youngster that doesnt look to be world beater. Their two best players of last year are missing the first 8 (ish) games. Rob Burrow has ost the yard of pace that made him any better than Dean Lawford impressionist. Brett Delaney is as good a centre as Barrie McDermott is, actually, Barrie would be quicker and at least look like breaking line. Signed Ben Cross, who has spent the past 6 years on his back in the NRL. The core of the Leeds team is rotting, Webb, McGuire, Burrow, Diskin and Sinfield are all struggling, losing a yard of pace, having to be wheeled out onto the pitch carrying an injury or (by far worst) joined Bradford

My comment wasnt just a dig at age, it was a general concept that maybe a few of the old guard can't cut it anymore

RED LEAGUE was trying to say that the same concerns can be levelled at Warrington, if you think it's not an issue for the Wolves, then go and look at your squads player profiles.

And my point wasnt the age, but the amount of minutes your going to get out of the players. For me, Morley Monaghan King and Briers have a lot more left in them than the likes of Wild, Anderson, Bailey and Nero.

Although, any player over thirty is a gamble, Monaghan, King and Briers, might have more miles left in the tank? Morley's debatable though. For a long time now, he's made a name for himself as being a hard player and getting stuck in, and let's face it he's had a few injuries along the way. Not to mention he's been in some serious battles. He also got injured playing for England in October and is older than the rest anyway. Briers isn't exact a prime example of the shape a Rugby League should be keeping himself in either!!!! It could count against him.

Given their recent injury problems: Anderson, Bailey and Wild are three collective gambles Salford, probably, shouldn't have taken, but the club has a good deal of strength in depth, with three good up and coming second rowers and Rob Parker. Personally I'd be happy if we kept one or even two of them fit though the season.

Morley has got plenty left in him, just because he's not the 'hard man' he used to be doenst mean he isnt up to it anymore. Off memory, he featured in approx 24/25 games last year and never took a backward step. He's matured into a fine prop forward. Briers has never looked after his body, but could play in a dinner suit the amount of times he gets tackled, he could play as long as he likes (lets face it, he cant lose any pace, he's not got any!)

This could go on all day!!! I'll come out with a Barrk McKenzie type quote, "you're obviously wearing Warrington Wolves tinted spectacles!!!!!!!!" I'll make a similar one about Salford's new signings, "the fact Wild, Bailey and Anderson haven't played much rugby over the last couple of years means their bodies have had plenty of time to repair themselves".

after seeing us today i think the one thing you would need to worry about with wire is that we've got a proper goal kicker now, which will make a signifcent difference to us.

Diskin isn't a Rhino anymore.

And McShane looks to be an excellent prospest in my opinion. The few games I saw him play at Hull, his distribution was excellent, and his tackling technique was spot on. I think he's going to be an excellent hooker in the future.

But I do share the opinion that Leeds are on a downer.

I think that's probably the most accurate assumption in my eyes. Impossible to predict absolute positions, but much easier to split the league into mini segments.
As one-eyed and Bulls-orientated as this sounds, I think it's impossible to suggest we'll be lower or worse than last year. It's already been eluded to lots and lots by the other Bulls posters on this board, but not only do we have far more depth than 2010, we have a coach.

I'm genuinely excited for 2011 and if I was going to "guess" where Bradford would finish, I'd say 6th.

Go on, keep tipping Quins to finish bottom, we had a good time proving everyone wrong (and spanking Wigan) last season.

Apparently 'they’ll be a team to be wreckoned with' ( sic). Hope we can 'wreckon' them when we go there.

Wakey will finish bottom this year (if they even start the season) so you are safe this year at least.