Yet another HKA fan who makes a sweeping statement regarding the London SL franchise?
If you are referring to attendances, then well done...you have stated the obvious.

If you are on about performance on the field.....Quins are towing the line with regard to development of local talent and overseas players....whilst HKA have no kids in the England Academy squad, had no players in the Senior Squad for the 4 nations, are relying on 10 overseas players for 2011 and are surviving only on the generosity of their backer.

Like it or not, the RFL have made it clear that the next round of licences will be awarded on a number of criteria.....
Quins fail miserably on attendances, have no outstanding loans or debts and tick pretty much every other box.

HKA play in a shi7hole, have fans that have been involved in trouble, rely on overseas talent and have debts.....if you wanted to look at a club going backwards, I would suggest your own player development is stuck in reverse

Wigan
Warrington
Saints
Huddersfield
Leeds
Bradford
Hull KR
Hull FC
Castleford
Salford
Crusaders
Wakefield
Catalans
Harlequins

Leeds an aging squad? Really?

The starting team in feb next year will prob be:

Jones-Bishop
Smith
Delaney
Senior
Hall
Webb
Burrow
Bailey
Buderus
Cross
Ablett
Jones-Buchanan
Sinfield

Hauraki
Leuluai
Lauitiiiti
Burgess/McShane

Not that old really. The back line is fairly young and Senior would still probably walk into the England team if he hadn't retired.

Another team that a lot have underestimated is Bradford. I'd be excited if I was a Bulls fan and can see them competing for 4th.

As it is though I reckon:

Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Saints
Bradford
Hull KR
Hull FC
Hudds
------------
Castleford
Salford
Wakefield
Catalan
Harlequins
Crusaders

Blah, blah, blah, nothing to do with the franchise or what criteria you manage to fulfil I just think your playing squad is s**t!

Saints haven't finished out of the top 2 since Millward got the boot and I don't expect a much strengthened Saints in 2011 to be any different.

If Saints get a decent run with injuries I think we have a great chance of cleaning up.

this time last year. the predictions looked alot different to how the eventual table finished. only a couple of people chose wigan to finish 1st.

it looks as tho people are looking at what happened last year and making predictions.

yet again i think that its getting even more of a level playing field give or take a couple of teams and i can see a couple of top 6 fringe teams doing really well and maybe surprise a few people. bradford being one of them.

also i see warrington being strong along with huddersfield.

i see top 6 as being

wire
wigan
leeds
hudds
bradford
saints

Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Leeds
Huddersfield
Catalans
Hull KR
Bradford
Salford
Hull FC
Castleford
Crusaders
Harlequins
Wakefield

Think saints have brought in some good signings but the loss of the leadership of KC and playing away at Widnes might take them a few weeks to get into the swing of things.
I think warrington and wigan will be up there too and bradford perhaps making it back with the big boys with lots of new signings, MP coming in to steady the ship. Excited!

I just can't see, as much as I'd like to, Bradford being a big power this season, but please correct me if I'm eventually wrong, 7th highest for them.

I wouldn't be too disappointed with 7th, especially with a tenth place finish last year.

Its all about improvement, that's all i'm asking for. I reckon if MP gets the team to gel, we could challenge for top 6, top 4 is too bifg of an ask with the changes in personnel imo.

Yeah, you're on the way to a good set up, but you don't have it quite there yet.

Fair enough...and I think your squad is FULL of s**t australians.....and you are still 15 points away from Wigan.....so you'll win exactly the same as us but having broken/bent the rules on overseas players.....that's the sign of a backwards moving team IMO.

Wigan will finish top with Wire pushing them relatively close

Leeds and Saints 3rd and 4th

Anything could happen after that

You really do have a s**t squad though, dont you?

edited.


Harlequins RL squad for 2011 is a tad better than 2010 imo. We will trundle along at the wrong end of the table for most of the season, but will get the usual quota of shock wins......and might be in with a shout of the 8 up to about the last 6 weeks of the season. The Young British Players we use in 2011 will be better prepared for 2012 (if we are still in the comp) and Quins RL will easily make the 8 in 2012......
How do you think Hull Kingston Australia willgo in 2012? How is that player development coming along? Will you have only 8 overseas players in your squad....will any local lads get a chance or will it all be players from other academies?

Good luck for 2011........I suspect a decent start and a cup run will see you in the 8 with a slight increase in attendances.....but yet again, an empty trophy cabinet.

Its true though.
You cant win SL without 5 or 6 very good local products unless you have a miracle injury run.
A salary capped sport wont allow it

Leeds top? What have you been sniffing?

Looks pretty good to me. Maybe KR above FC and Quins above Wakey? There won't be much in it.

I might have said Bradford for 8th but the loss of Worrincey will just be too much for them

Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Hull FC
Leeds
Huddersfield
Bradford
Salford
Hull KR
Castleford
Catalan
Wakefield
Harlequins
Crusaders

Nice to see people putting us outside the 8, will be very suprised as I believe our team is much better than the last two years. Anyway my table would be:

1.Wigan (Easily)
2.Leeds
3.Saints
4.Warrington
5.Hull KR
6.Huddersfield
7.Hull FC
8.Castleford
9.Salford
10.Bradford
11.Catalan
12.Crusaders
13.Harlequins
14.Wakefield

1. Warrington
2. Wigan
3. Saints
4. Leeds
5. Huddersfield
6. Hull KR
7. Hull FC
8. Bradford
9. Castleford
10. Salford
11. Catalans
12. Crusaders
13. Harlequins
14. Wakefield

wigan
saints
wire
leeds
hudds
hull fc
hull kr
cas
bradford
cats
salford
wakey
crusaders
quins

Westerman was pants for us last year, Shenny was good at times but I think when Saints fans see him play week in week out they will be a little dissapointed. Much much much happier with our squad than I was last year and an 8th place finish will be on the cards.

I'm sure they can only dream of the 500 thousand people that turn up at CP each week to pump money into the squad to buy the superstars you have.